[Makerspace-keymembers] Costs for a glass lampworking starter kit

Thu Jan 29 18:32:57 EST 2015

That's fine.  Just let me know the final number.  I'll put it on our budget
page.

E

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Dena Strong <dena.strong at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, will do later tonight! My ballpark estimate is $140-$160 with shipping
> and possible taxes included.
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Gergana Slavova <
> gergana.s.slavova at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm fine with getting the kit + the glasses.
>>
>> ~Gergana
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Emily Knox <emilyknox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds good to me.
>>>
>>> Emily
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Jeffrey Putney <quaker at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So the glasses are are like $40 if I recall. And Dena you would know
>>>> better but I think they are probably the one item that is pretty special
>>>> and make the bead making a lot easier. I think a pair for the space would
>>>> be pretty cool.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Dena Strong <dena.strong at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Which version, though? Do y'all want the set with the didymium
>>>>> glasses, or the under $100 version?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Emily Knox <emilyknox at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Dena,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would just go ahead and order these materials.  You can fill out a
>>>>>> form for reimbursement (attached).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Emily
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Elizacorps <elizacorps at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WOW... Custom spoke beads! I have plastic ones on one of my bikes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't wait!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Be kind to yourself
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 0:20, Jeffrey Putney <quaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it would be a fun activity to be able do anytime.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And tonight the bike project invited us to a jewelry making workshop
>>>>>>> where they want to make jewelry from bike parts. I think it could be fun to
>>>>>>> include some custom glass beads in this activity ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Gergana Slavova <
>>>>>>> gergana.s.slavova at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have no other plans to purchase things in Jan/Feb/Mar and no
>>>>>>>> major events planned.  I'm ok with spending the money.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~Gergana
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Emily Knox <emilyknox at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At the moment we have $500 in the budget for 2015Q1, just FYI.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Dena Strong <
>>>>>>>>> dena.strong at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, all! Gergana and Jeff asked me to mail out a list of what it
>>>>>>>>>> would cost to put together a glass lampworking basic kit for the
>>>>>>>>>> Makerspace. My hypothesis is that it should be doable for under $100 and
>>>>>>>>>> that everything should be available at either the hardware store or the
>>>>>>>>>> grocery store except for the actual glass rods and mandrel release. Let's
>>>>>>>>>> see if that's an accurate guess...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (Some Internet investigations later...)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK, it looks like a pair of didymium glasses are the break point
>>>>>>>>>> between "could get going under $100" and "over $100."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's a kit for $99 that would need the gas, glass, and a table
>>>>>>>>>> protecting aluminum tray added; it contains a set of didymium glasses.  (
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.sundanceglass.com/kitslamp1.htm ) Adding the gas,
>>>>>>>>>> glass, and aluminum tray would take the total to about $140.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've got to admit this is a pretty good deal, because the lenses
>>>>>>>>>> by themselves start at $60 and go up from there. If the Makerspace wants to
>>>>>>>>>> own a set of those lenses, this kit is definitely the way to go because
>>>>>>>>>> adding them on to a piecemeal order later would end up costing about $20-30
>>>>>>>>>> more overall. (Getting the kit and adding glass/gas would total about $140.
>>>>>>>>>> Getting the components separately and adding the glasses would cost
>>>>>>>>>> $160-$170, without factoring in multiple shipping costs.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But it is possible to hit the "under $100" target if the didymium
>>>>>>>>>> glasses aren't in the equation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If we wanted to piece it out and not get the didymium lenses to
>>>>>>>>>> start with, here's how the math would go:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fire:
>>>>>>>>>> MAPP gas - $7.50, Menards
>>>>>>>>>> Mag-torch aka hot head torch - $15, Menards (currently on sale
>>>>>>>>>> for $12)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Table anchoring stuff (the Makerspace may already have some of
>>>>>>>>>> these for other purposes too):
>>>>>>>>>> C-clamp - $3
>>>>>>>>>> 4" angle bracket - $3
>>>>>>>>>> Hose clamp - $1.50
>>>>>>>>>> Aluminum baking tray for table surface protection:  $3
>>>>>>>>>> Vermiculite - (I've got a partial bag of the stuff, I'm happy to
>>>>>>>>>> donate a gallon-ziploc of it for bead use)
>>>>>>>>>> Wide mouth can or clay pot for holding the vermiculite - (I bet
>>>>>>>>>> there's something kicking around we could reuse; if not, we should be able
>>>>>>>>>> to find something suitable under $5)
>>>>>>>>>> Regular non-didymium safety glasses - (the Makerspace has some,
>>>>>>>>>> right?)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Glass stuff:
>>>>>>>>>> Sampler set of 30 rods with assorted colors: $30 from Sundance
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mandrel release bottle: 4 oz - $7 from Sundance
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mandrels - $7 per dozen from Sundance, or $33 per pound;
>>>>>>>>>> alternatively, 1 pound of stainless steel welding rods would be $15, in 36
>>>>>>>>>> inch lengths that would need cutting down but would give you several dozen.
>>>>>>>>>> (Given how easy it is to have a glass item adhere to the mandrel, a few
>>>>>>>>>> dozen would be a good idea.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So the without-glasses version works out to $90ish by making our
>>>>>>>>>> own mandrels from the pound of welding rods, or $108ish by buying a pound
>>>>>>>>>> of already-made mandrels from Sundance along with the glass and bead
>>>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the options?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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