[Makerspace-keymembers] Costs for a glass lampworking starter kit

Thu Jan 29 23:48:34 EST 2015

OK, order sent off! Apparently they calculate the shipping based on the
actual packed-box weight, so it may be a couple days before I get the final
total from them.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Emily Knox <emilyknox at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's fine.  Just let me know the final number.  I'll put it on our
> budget page.
>
> E
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Dena Strong <dena.strong at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> OK, will do later tonight! My ballpark estimate is $140-$160 with
>> shipping and possible taxes included.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Gergana Slavova <
>> gergana.s.slavova at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm fine with getting the kit + the glasses.
>>>
>>> ~Gergana
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Emily Knox <emilyknox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds good to me.
>>>>
>>>> Emily
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Jeffrey Putney <quaker at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So the glasses are are like $40 if I recall. And Dena you would know
>>>>> better but I think they are probably the one item that is pretty special
>>>>> and make the bead making a lot easier. I think a pair for the space would
>>>>> be pretty cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Dena Strong <dena.strong at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Which version, though? Do y'all want the set with the didymium
>>>>>> glasses, or the under $100 version?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Emily Knox <emilyknox at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dena,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would just go ahead and order these materials.  You can fill out a
>>>>>>> form for reimbursement (attached).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Emily
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Elizacorps <elizacorps at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WOW... Custom spoke beads! I have plastic ones on one of my bikes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can't wait!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Be kind to yourself
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 0:20, Jeffrey Putney <quaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think it would be a fun activity to be able do anytime.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And tonight the bike project invited us to a jewelry making
>>>>>>>> workshop where they want to make jewelry from bike parts. I think it could
>>>>>>>> be fun to include some custom glass beads in this activity ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Gergana Slavova <
>>>>>>>> gergana.s.slavova at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have no other plans to purchase things in Jan/Feb/Mar and no
>>>>>>>>> major events planned.  I'm ok with spending the money.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~Gergana
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Emily Knox <emilyknox at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At the moment we have $500 in the budget for 2015Q1, just FYI.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Dena Strong <
>>>>>>>>>> dena.strong at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, all! Gergana and Jeff asked me to mail out a list of what it
>>>>>>>>>>> would cost to put together a glass lampworking basic kit for the
>>>>>>>>>>> Makerspace. My hypothesis is that it should be doable for under $100 and
>>>>>>>>>>> that everything should be available at either the hardware store or the
>>>>>>>>>>> grocery store except for the actual glass rods and mandrel release. Let's
>>>>>>>>>>> see if that's an accurate guess...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (Some Internet investigations later...)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK, it looks like a pair of didymium glasses are the break point
>>>>>>>>>>> between "could get going under $100" and "over $100."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a kit for $99 that would need the gas, glass, and a table
>>>>>>>>>>> protecting aluminum tray added; it contains a set of didymium glasses.  (
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.sundanceglass.com/kitslamp1.htm ) Adding the gas,
>>>>>>>>>>> glass, and aluminum tray would take the total to about $140.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've got to admit this is a pretty good deal, because the lenses
>>>>>>>>>>> by themselves start at $60 and go up from there. If the Makerspace wants to
>>>>>>>>>>> own a set of those lenses, this kit is definitely the way to go because
>>>>>>>>>>> adding them on to a piecemeal order later would end up costing about $20-30
>>>>>>>>>>> more overall. (Getting the kit and adding glass/gas would total about $140.
>>>>>>>>>>> Getting the components separately and adding the glasses would cost
>>>>>>>>>>> $160-$170, without factoring in multiple shipping costs.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But it is possible to hit the "under $100" target if the
>>>>>>>>>>> didymium glasses aren't in the equation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If we wanted to piece it out and not get the didymium lenses to
>>>>>>>>>>> start with, here's how the math would go:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Fire:
>>>>>>>>>>> MAPP gas - $7.50, Menards
>>>>>>>>>>> Mag-torch aka hot head torch - $15, Menards (currently on sale
>>>>>>>>>>> for $12)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Table anchoring stuff (the Makerspace may already have some of
>>>>>>>>>>> these for other purposes too):
>>>>>>>>>>> C-clamp - $3
>>>>>>>>>>> 4" angle bracket - $3
>>>>>>>>>>> Hose clamp - $1.50
>>>>>>>>>>> Aluminum baking tray for table surface protection:  $3
>>>>>>>>>>> Vermiculite - (I've got a partial bag of the stuff, I'm happy to
>>>>>>>>>>> donate a gallon-ziploc of it for bead use)
>>>>>>>>>>> Wide mouth can or clay pot for holding the vermiculite - (I bet
>>>>>>>>>>> there's something kicking around we could reuse; if not, we should be able
>>>>>>>>>>> to find something suitable under $5)
>>>>>>>>>>> Regular non-didymium safety glasses - (the Makerspace has some,
>>>>>>>>>>> right?)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Glass stuff:
>>>>>>>>>>> Sampler set of 30 rods with assorted colors: $30 from Sundance
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mandrel release bottle: 4 oz - $7 from Sundance
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mandrels - $7 per dozen from Sundance, or $33 per pound;
>>>>>>>>>>> alternatively, 1 pound of stainless steel welding rods would be $15, in 36
>>>>>>>>>>> inch lengths that would need cutting down but would give you several dozen.
>>>>>>>>>>> (Given how easy it is to have a glass item adhere to the mandrel, a few
>>>>>>>>>>> dozen would be a good idea.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So the without-glasses version works out to $90ish by making our
>>>>>>>>>>> own mandrels from the pound of welding rods, or $108ish by buying a pound
>>>>>>>>>>> of already-made mandrels from Sundance along with the glass and bead
>>>>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the options?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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