[OccupyCU] [Peace-discuss] [sf-core] Another Guantánamo prisoner death highlights Democrats' hypocrisy

C. G. Estabrook cge at shout.net
Thu Sep 13 13:51:36 UTC 2012


So, you believe in free speech and "democratic discussion" - except for "retired academics"?  

Another example, so it seems to me, of self-proclaimed liberals becoming quite remarkably illiberal.


On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:02 AM, "ya'aQov" <yaaqovz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ingbert, per your
> 
> 'I should show up to meetings if I want to claim ownership over any kind of action, or offer any critique, so I'm going to try and be done participating for now, and will revert back to lurking until I can start coming to meetings again.'
> 
> ocCUpy didn't grow into 'should' do this or that; rather, it offered a venue for groups growing into democratic discussions where you face, listen to, each other, make plans and act on them. Lurking, or copy&paste texts that make sense virtually, yet might take time from our friends doesn't offer us the same listening and presence; also, it's much easier to offend someone when not looking or listening to them; pretty much like the 1% hiding there, anonymously making decisions that offend us and our lives.
> 
> Retired academics using our list for their agendas was never an intent for which we created the ocCUpy listserv; detestably, they took advantage of, and have been abusing, our listserv, giving us a piss(contest) of their beautiful minds. 
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