[OccupyCU] [Peace-discuss] [sf-core] New bishop of Rome...

[Michael Weissman]

THE HIPPOPOTAMUS

*by: T.S. Eliot (1888-1965)*


   HE broad-backed hippopotamusRests on his belly in the mud;Although he
      seems so firm to usHe is merely flesh and blood. Flesh-and-blood is
      weak and frail,Susceptible to nervous shock;While the True Church can
      never failFor it is based upon a rock. The hippo's feeble steps may
      errIn compassing material ends,While the True Church need never stirTo
      gather in its dividends. The 'potamus can never reachThe mango on the
      mango-tree;But fruits of pomegranate and peachRefresh the Church from
      over sea. At mating time the hippo's voiceBetrays inflexions hoarse
      and odd,But every week we hear rejoiceThe Church, at being one with
      God. The hippopotamus's dayIs passed in sleep; at night he hunts;God
      works in a mysterious way--The Church can sleep and feed at once. I
      saw the 'potamus take wingAscending from the damp savannas,And
      quiring angels round him singThe praise of God, in loud hosannas. Blood
      of the Lamb shall wash him cleanAnd him shall heavenly arms enfold,Among
      the saints he shall be seenPerforming on a harp of gold. He shall be
      washed as white as snow,By all the martyr'd virgins kist,While the
      True Church remains belowWrapt in the old miasmal mist.



On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:14 PM, C. G. Estabrook
<carl at newsfromneptune.com>wrote:

> You choose not to deal with the substance of the critiques of the book?
>
> At least look at the summary of Don Marquis, "Why Abortion is Immoral,"
> The Journal of Philosophy 86:4 <
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/abortion/philosophical/future.shtml>.
>
> Are you suggesting I have your copy of the book?
>
> --CGE
>
> On Mar 14, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Paul Mueth <paulmueth at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > CGE's remarks on my lending the aforementioned book to him was -
> <junior ranked faculty at second rate university>
> > roughly, not recorded.
> >
> > If you still have the book BTW, do pass it on to someone who'll read it
> and return it to me. . .
> >
> > > The historical scholarship of this book has been criticized . .
> >
> > Amazon customer book review by Elsie Mandelbaum who seems to specialize
> in accusations of anti Catholicism
> >
> > The ludicrous analogy to shooting into a building seems to be all CGE
> and doesn't rate a reply.
> >
> > Also this is my last posting to any of these lists re "il pape" and his
> every sperm is sacred idiocy.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone 3GS, It doesn't chat!
> >
> > On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:45 AM, "C. G. Estabrook" <
> carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The historical scholarship of this book has been criticized. "The
> authors ignore the anti-abortion position of the early ('Patristic')
> church. The Didache, Tertullian, and Athenagoras categorically condemn all
> abortion, regardless of what stage at which it is performed. The authors
> rightly show that Augustine and Aquinas supported the theory of delayed
> animation, but they fail to show that these authors also categorically
> condemned abortion at all stages. Later abortion was more gravely evil than
> an early abortion (just as first-degree murder is more evil than
> second-degree murder), but all abortion was condemned as wrong. The canon
> law of the same period showed the same graded but clear condemnation of all
> abortion."
> > >
> > > The philosophical argument seems equally weak. The authors concede
> that ending a human life is wrong: they simply dispute at what point human
> life can be said to begin. But surely one must err on the side of caution
> in this matter: if I just think - but am not sure - that someone is inside
> a building, I can't fire a gun into it.
> > >
> > > For what seems to me a better argument, see <
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/abortion/philosophical/future.shtml>. --CGE
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Paul Mueth <paulmueth at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Mar 13, 2013, at 11:03 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <
> carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I think that notion about quickening is largely a myth, Mike.
> > >>>
> > >>> From Patristic times Christians regarded any interference with fetal
> life as a delict
> > >>
> > >> CGE well knows ad hominem arguement as he notoriously employed one in
> dismissing the authors of the UI Press published A Brief Liberal Catholic
> Defense of Abortion
> > >
>
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Michael Weissman
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