[Peace-discuss] AWARE

[Ricky Baldwin]

I happen to like merry-go-rounds as well as Ferris wheels, regardless of how ferrous or ironic they may be.  This particular merry-go-round is making me a bit ill, however.  I believe I'll drop out now.

Ricky



"Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:

From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] AWARE
To: 
Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:41 PM




  
the merry-go-round is not a ferrous wheel, the perception of irony  is
lost and the derivation of irony is unrelated.



Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning hypocrisy,
deception, or feigned ignorance) is a literary or rhetorical device, in
which there is an incongruity or discordance between what one says or
does and what one means or what is generally understood. Irony is a
mode of expression that calls attention to the character's knowledge
and that of the audience.



There is argument about what qualifies as ironic, but all senses of
irony revolve around the perceived notion of an incongruity between
what is expressed and what is intended, or between an understanding or
expectation of a reality and what actually happens: the literal truth
is in direct discordance to the perceived truth.





On 9/3/2009 1:11 PM, jgeo61 at comcast.net wrote:

  #yiv1008083103 p {margin:0;}
  Webster
9th Edition Collegiate Dictionary pg.914 "Pontificate":  "to speak or
express opinions in a pompous or dogmatic way"

  

I stand by my usage of this word.  Again, if the small group of people
who want to use this list serve exclusively really need to consider
creating their own venue.

  

Joy George

  

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From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>

To: "John W." <jbw292002 at gmail.com>

Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net

Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 9:01:41 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
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Here's the OED pontificating, as it were--

  

[< classical Latin pontific-, pontifex Roman high priest, in
post-classical 

Latin also pope (4th cent.), bishop (5th cent.; frequently from 7th
cent. in 

British sources), archbishop (frequently from 8th cent. in British
sources), 

apparently (following ancient etymologists) < ponti-, alternative
stem of pons 

bridge (see PONS n.) + -fic-, -fex, combining form of facere to do,
make (see 

FACT n.), though this may represent merely a folk etymology ... In
sense 4 

chiefly used punningly or allusively with reference to the supposed
etymology.]

        [...]

     4. A bridge-maker. Also fig.

1686 J. F. G. CARERI Let. 6 Apr. in Coll. Voy. & Trav. (1732) 88/1
Jucundus on 

the Seyne two bridges laid, For which he well may Pontifex be said.
Pontifex has 

here a double meaning, as signifying a bridge-maker; whereas the true 

acceptation of it is a bishop. 1834 T. CARLYLE Sartor Resartus I. xi.
28/2 Never 

perhaps since our first Bridge-builders, Sin and Death, built that
stupendous 

Arch from Hell-gate to the Earth, did any Pontifex, or Pontiff,
undertake such a 

task. 1877 Outl. Hist. Relig. 237 No special deity claimed the services
of the 

Pontifices, the bridge- or road-makers. 1927 Jrnl. Royal Anthropol.
Instit. 57 

248 Moses was a Pontifex indeed. His device, whatever it may have been,
perhaps 

the choice of an interval between the floods, became a miracle. 1999
Hinduism 

Today (Nexis) 30 Apr. 25 He was a Pontifex..a man throwing bridges over
  

different rivers. Vedic heritage and Greek Pagan thought, Hindu
worldview and 

Germanic tradition.

  

John W. wrote:

> ... 

> Incidentally, in my own dictionary perusings and musings - to say 

> nothing of my life experience - I'm not seeing anything about a
person 

> who pontificates as being a "bridge builder":

> 

> *pon·tif·i·cate

> *

>   (pŏn-tĭf'ĭ-kĭt, -kāt')   

> n.  The office or term of office of a pontiff.

> intr.v.   (-kāt') *pon·tif·i·cat·ed*, *pon·tif·i·cat·ing*,
*pon·tif·i·cates*

> 

>    1. To express opinions or judgments in a dogmatic way.

>    2. To administer the office of a pontiff.

> 

> 

> [Latin pontificātus, from pontifex, pontific-, /pontifex/; see * 

> pontifex*. V., from Medieval Latin pontificāre, pontificāt-, /to
act as 

> an ecclesiastic/, from Latin pontifex.]

> *pon·tif'i·ca'tion*/ n./, *pon·tif'i·ca'tor*/ n.

> 

> /

> 

> The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
Edition

> Copyright © 2009 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

> Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

> 

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