[Peace-discuss] Chomsky on the great danger of Trump

David Green davidgreen50 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 2 03:02:03 UTC 2020


If the Congress had agreed on a generous maintenance package in order to
keep people home and suppress the virus, that would have resounded to
Trump's credit, depending on the politics behind it's passage. It's
important politically for Trump not to get credit for a successful
recovery. At some level the Dems likely understand that. But in lieu of
that they can blame non-compliant Trump voters while supporting BLM
protests. And of course Trump's stupidity has made things easy for them.

On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 9:51 PM J.B. Nicholson via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> David Green wrote:
> > Mort, I have no problem with Chomsky's appropriate alarmism. I do have a
> > problem with his implying that Biden will in any serious way challenge
> the
> > institutional forces that are leading us to the abyss.
>
> I concur with what David said. I'll add a few notes, none of which are in
> objection
> to what David said.
>
> Today's establishment-friendly review of Biden reminds me of the
> light-touch
> criticism Hillary Clinton received 4 years ago (and from some of the same
> people).
> There's no clear and detailed coverage of his political record in
> establishment media
> which includes DN. And like Hillary Clinton's political history, doesn't
> bear close
> scrutiny for her supporters. Problems with Biden are waved away as if one
> of the two
> major party candidates simply must be deemed better than the other.
>
> I think that these DN Chomsky interviews are very much about stumping for
> the
> Democrats ahead of election time. I think climate change and nuclear war
> are very
> important. But I don't think that these issues will be the way voters pick
> whether to
> vote or whom to vote for. As I understand it, voters are far more likely
> to make an
> election decision based on their immediate financial situation. So I won't
> be
> surprised if we see a repeat of what happened in 2016 -- the largest bloc
> of
> registered voters didn't vote for US President, likely out of disgust with
> both major
> party candidates.
>
> I find it telling and sad that Medicare for All and Universal Basic Income
> don't come
> up at all in the 6 parts of that Chomsky interview posted so far. These
> two policies
> strike me as practical, majoritarian-support approaches to help the poor
> avoid the
> immiseration they're facing or will likely face soon. But anyone endorsing
> Biden
> can't bring up these policy choices without highlighting how awful the
> Democrats are
> for basically refusing Medicare for All 3 times in recent history (when
> Democrats had
> both houses of Congress & the presidency under Obama with HR676, and now
> with 2 bills
> Congress apparently refuses to bring to the floor now).
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