[Peace-discuss] Why isn't CHOP's massive failure being seen as a clear pointer to liberal policy failure and protest inarticulateness?

[David Green]

The horrible consequences of the current "movement" are not articulated by
mainstream and most "progressive" media because BLM poses no threat to the
capitalist ruling class. The Woke Left is not known for serious
self-criticism.

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 4:51 PM J.B. Nicholson via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> I'm purposefully pointing to establishment media source CNN here --
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/05/us/chop-seattle-police-protesters-public-safety/
> -- to
> make a point about the Seattle zone where police were unwelcomed and
> (allegedly) did
> not go; an area presumably set up by those who champion the "defund the
> police" line
> and who apparently never got around to identifying what the police do and
> how each of
> these tasks should be done instead.
>
>  From what I can tell the CHOP supporters established no clearly-defined
> (nor
> democratically arrived at) policies covering how people would deal with
> real-world
> problems for which the police are typically called in; from the relatively
> mundane
> traffic accident to the obviously important murders (which happened).
>
> After two deaths and reports of other violence (shootings, beatings, and a
> rape) and
> the lethal experiment known as CHOP is now over. There should be quite a
> price to pay
> for Seattle's remarkably ignorant and negligent mayor Jenny Durkan both
> legally and
> in any re-election bid. Her being a Democrat also doesn't help that
> party's image.
> She's currently facing two separate petitions for recall[1].
>
> [1]
>
> https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/judge-hears-dual-petitions-recall-seattle-mayor/4WVFOQAHHZCIZDR3AO5MBRNYVA/
>
> So far I'm led to believe that what will come out of these protests is
> little more
> than vacuous sloganeering around "Black Lives Matter" (which merely
> repeats Glen
> Ford's earlier complaint about BLM) and "Defund The Police". There are
> lots of other
> choices for things we can do, we don't need the false dichotomy of
> accepting the
> police status quo or reinstating CHOP. Both lead to unacceptable horrors.
> But it's
> not good enough to point out that the status quo is horrible, one must
> identify
> specific actionable plans on what is to be done.
>
> Are protestors pushing for policies the country needs by listing
> actionable and
> identifiable plans (if not extant bills Congress could pass tomorrow if
> there were
> the political will to do it) and then insisting on their implementation?
> I'm thinking
> of policies such as cutting the war budget at least in half and
> redirecting former
> war budget money to pay for social services and funding federal guarantees
> to people?
> Americans need Medicare for All (2 bills exist to implement this now), a
> home for
> every American (not Cabrini Green-style warehousing), a Universal Basic
> Income, a
> national jobs program, recalling troops, ships, and weapons back home
> (including
> flatly abandoning occupations), local control over policing (not advisory
> boards),
> and clawing back the trillions of the "CARES" Act (which got widespread
> bipartisan
> support including so-called Congressional "progressives" like Ilhan Omar
> and
> Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) so that that money can be spent in direct cash
> payments to
> the public instead of the majority of CARES money going to the wealthiest
> people and
> businesses.
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