[Peace-discuss] Recent Jimmy Dore shows are worth your time

J.B. Nicholson jbn at forestfield.org
Mon Sep 20 01:35:00 UTC 2021


I wrote:
> Jimmy Dore is in a study involving his own treatment. I don't know about any more 
> details about the study than were presented in that segment. I'm sure there will
> be more to come on that when the study results are released.

Here are the published separated segments (interviews with Dr. Ram Yogendra) in which 
Jimmy Dore mentioned being a part of a 'long COVID' study at the start of each 
segment. Neither segment gets into details about that study or Dore's participation 
(which I expect will be covered later after the trial is over and study results are 
available), but I post this and summaries of what is in these segments to back my own 
claims.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=tcAHvj6B1Nk (29m 57s) -- "Why Vaccine Mandates Are A Bad 
Idea"

Highlights from this segment:

- COVID-19 vaccines available now don't prevent the fully-vaccinated from getting 
COVID-19, don't prevent the fully-vaccinated from "shedding" (as the doctors say) or 
conveying COVID-19 to others. So if one is standing next to a fully-vaccinated person 
and an unvaccinated person and one gets COVID-19 from one of those two people, one 
can't tell who they got COVID-19 from.

- The alleged 'public health' basis for the vaccine mandates is completely upended by 
the above; the vaccine mandates make no medical sense.

- A vaccine mandate violates medical ethics (which favors individual freedom to make 
choices even if their death is imminent), vaccine mandates were objected to by both 
Pres. Elect Biden (who was on record saying he would not have such a mandate) and 
Speaker Pelosi (who claimed the US could not legally have such a mandate due to 
privacy law), and vaccine mandates have consequences that are expensive and invasive 
(such as the Chicago bus drivers who quit their jobs rather than comply with a 
vaccine mandate).

- Advice from Dr. Yogendra to have medical professionals tell the public the truth -- 
there are questions to which they simply don't have an answer. We simply don't yet 
know all we need to know about COVID-19 and the answer that will lead to ordinary 
people trusting authorities more is "We don't yet know". This might not lead to more 
people choosing to become vaccinated, but it will tend toward increasing trust which 
is a necessary prerequisite for specific treatments.



https://youtube.com/watch?v=5U_LlkWbn-c (23m 3s) -- "Joe Rogan Quickly Beats 
COVID--Establishment OUTRAGED!" which gets into media coverage of Ivermectin, one of 
the drugs Joe Rogan said he took during the days when Rogan felt horribly run-down as 
a result of COVID-19.

Highlights from this segment:

- Jimmy Dore cites plenty of cases of false information about ivermectin being 
"unapproved" and framing ivermectin as a "horse dewormer" -- the kind of medical 
disinformation/misinformation non-establishment people and groups would be censored 
for echoing but apparently establishment media is allowed to write and publish 
without warning or censorship (as Dore points out, "you never get in trouble when you 
lie at the behest of the establishment"). The US FDA is in the set of establishment 
outlets who are disincentivizing ivermectin ("You are not a horse. You are not a cow. 
Seriously, y'all. Stop it." from 
https://twitter.com/US_FDA/status/1429050070243192839) which was also explained in 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iwPKnOhJRYg. But Rogan's ivermectin was prescribed by his 
doctor.

- ivermectin is used for many animals including around 4 billion humans. Ivermectin 
has been available in doses suitable and appropriate for human use for years. 
Ivermectin's inventors won the Nobel prize for medicine in 2015. Ivermectin is on the 
World Health Organization's "WHO Model List of Essential Medicines" in 
https://www.who.int/selection_medicines/committees/expert/20/EML_2015_FINAL_amended_AUG2015.pdf 
. We don't have the evidence to back up the establishment rhetoric which deplores 
ivermectin and anyone who takes it.

I suspect that what explains the establishment rhetoric is patent law: ivermectin 
isn't patentable; ivermectin is available widely and cheaply as a generic drug. I 
suspect that the establishment media is acting in the interests of their big pharma 
advertisers who don't have anything as effective as ivermectin to offer which is 
under patent (and, as a direct consequence, highly priced and profitable). The FDA is 
almost 45% big pharma funded (per 
https://today.uconn.edu/2021/05/why-is-the-fda-funded-in-part-by-the-companies-it-regulates-2/). 
That is an inversion of what a food and drug regulatory body ought to be doing and it 
helps explain the outcomes we see today.

-J


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