[Peace-discuss] newleftreview: watkins-an-avoidable-war

[Robert Naiman]

On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 2:44 AM C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com>
wrote:

> Watkins’ account of the analyses and plans of the actual combatants - the
> US and Russia - can help to chart a way out of the quagmire.
>
> Instead of providing more weapons or - even worse - a no-fly zone, the US
> must insist Ukraine accept Putin’s terms for a cease-fire.
>

The probability of a "no-fly zone" is zero.

"the US must insist Ukraine accept Putin’s terms for a cease-fire" -
regardless of whether this would be a moral course of action, the
probability of this happening is zero.


> But Washington seems criminally willing to fight to the last Ukrainian to
> produce maximum damage to Russia and Putin.
>

The Ukrainians and the East Europeans are way more adamant about this than
Biden is. That's a key reason that the "theory of change" presented here
makes no sense. Biden is not pushing Ukraine and the East Europeans to be
more anti-Putin. It's the other way around. They're pushing Biden to be
more aggressive. That's a key reason we can't plausibly do anything to stop
this. Ukraine and the East Europeans are pushing Biden to be more
aggressive, and CNN is looping Russian atrocities in Ukraine 24/7. We have
no political juice against this. We have no angle. We have no lever. As Dr.
Shireen al-Adeimi says, "Yemen is the war we can stop." There's nothing we
can do now to stop the Russian war on Ukraine. But we can stop the Saudi
war on Yemen now.




>
> US citizens must prevent that. —CGE
>
>
> > On Apr 13, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Of course it was an avoidable war. But how is this knowledge helping us
> "repair the world" now?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 8:07 PM C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> >
> https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii133/articles/susan-watkins-an-avoidable-war
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