[Peace-discuss] newleftreview: watkins-an-avoidable-war

[C. G. Estabrook]

The US government is providing arms and materiel to combatants in Ukraine and Yemen. 

We should insist that it stop doing so. —CGE
 

> On Apr 14, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 2:44 AM C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
> Watkins’ account of the analyses and plans of the actual combatants - the US and Russia - can help to chart a way out of the quagmire. 
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> Instead of providing more weapons or - even worse - a no-fly zone, the US must insist Ukraine accept Putin’s terms for a cease-fire.
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> The probability of a "no-fly zone" is zero. 
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> "the US must insist Ukraine accept Putin’s terms for a cease-fire" - regardless of whether this would be a moral course of action, the probability of this happening is zero. 
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> But Washington seems criminally willing to fight to the last Ukrainian to produce maximum damage to Russia and Putin.
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> The Ukrainians and the East Europeans are way more adamant about this than Biden is. That's a key reason that the "theory of change" presented here makes no sense. Biden is not pushing Ukraine and the East Europeans to be more anti-Putin. It's the other way around. They're pushing Biden to be more aggressive. That's a key reason we can't plausibly do anything to stop this. Ukraine and the East Europeans are pushing Biden to be more aggressive, and CNN is looping Russian atrocities in Ukraine 24/7. We have no political juice against this. We have no angle. We have no lever. As Dr. Shireen al-Adeimi says, "Yemen is the war we can stop." There's nothing we can do now to stop the Russian war on Ukraine. But we can stop the Saudi war on Yemen now. 
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> US citizens must prevent that. —CGE
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> > On Apr 13, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Of course it was an avoidable war. But how is this knowledge helping us "repair the world" now? 
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> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 8:07 PM C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> > https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii133/articles/susan-watkins-an-avoidable-war
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