[Peace-discuss] [Peace] 3pm today: "EMERGENCY: Is the US going to war with Russia over Ukraine?" Code Pink webinar

Tue Jan 25 19:30:26 UTC 2022

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> On Jan 25, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I am not in favor of what the U.S. has been doing in Ukraine, by any stretch of the imagination. If people want to organize against that, I'm totally for it. But it's irresponsible scaremongering to say that there's a danger that the U.S. is going to war with Russia over Ukraine, when there is no such danger, unless by "war" one means what the U.S. is already doing, in which case it's not a danger, it's what's already the case. Activist resources are finite, I'm sorry to say. This scaremongering about the danger of war with Russia is a distraction. We have a real possibility of ending unconstitutional U.S. participation in the Saudi war-blockade-famine-genocide in Yemen with floor votes in Congress in the next two months. Durbin and Duckworth could help a great deal with that; they have been in the more progressive half of Senate Democrats on this issue; on the last vote the Senate, they were better than Chris Murphy, who was historically a champion on the issue. Why not focus on what we have a chance to change? There is no danger of war with Russia, and there is little prospect of significant improvement in relations with Russia over and above whatever is necessary to avoid war, which the U.S. will do no matter what we say, because the people running the U.S. are not totally insane. Let's focus on what we can do something about in order to save the most lives. 
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> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 12:25 PM Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
> Yes.   I'm very worried about it, too.   I'm sure a lot of us are but don't have the regular outlet we used to have to share it with each other.    I have been seeing and reading a number of postings from you, but don't generally have anything to say in response -- so I don't know if I'm getting all you send, but some.
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> NPR keeps bringing on neocon commentators to soberly tell us how aggressive Russia is, and how we need to push the conflict to the brink so that the Russians will back down.   And yesterday's Chicago Sun-Times noted a bunch of Illinois Democratic politicians, Durbin and a bunch of US Reps (though *not* Jan Schakowsky, fortunately) expressing their support for Ukraine, which of course means support for US economic/military/whatever threatening action against Russia.
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> On 1/25/22 09:27, karen aram wrote:
>> Thank you Stuart, 
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>> I’ve been waiting for someone other than myself, to recognize the dangers inherent in what is taking place in Ukraine. I haven’t been posting on the Peace List given, I don’t know that my postings have been going through given I see almost no feedback nor postings from others. Even Facebook friends seem to not notice how critical this situation is with US nuclear missiles being spread across Eastern Europe, and Nato on the borders of Russia. 
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>> I’m pleased to see "Code Pink,” currently the only anti-war group in the US showing concern, and now acting on the issue, as well as yourself. 
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>> This is the most serious issue today, more dangerous even than the "Cuban Missile Crisis," according to some, with the potential for WW3.
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>> Karen Aram
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>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:03 AM, Stuart Levy via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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>>> Biden has just ordered 8500 US troops to be on alert for possible deployment to Eastern Europe... "lethal aid" has already been delivered to Ukraine.
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>>> US politicians across the spectrum are expressing their "support" for Ukraine, and the US media have been preparing us for war.
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>>> At 3PM Central Time today, Jan. 25th, CODE PINK will hold an emergency webinar:
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>>> Click Here to sign up for the webinar -- www.codepink.org/092522 <https://www.codepink.org/092522?recruiter_id=428144>
>>> Join an emergency webinar discussion between CODEPINK'S Medea Benjamin and retired Army Colonel Larry Wilkerson today at 3:00 PM Central time. Larry Wilkerson is a professor at the College of William & Mary and was chief of staff to U.S Secretary of State Colin Powell. After ending his military career, Wilkerson publicly criticized the Iraq War and has been a vocal opponent of U.S. policies that put militarism before diplomacy. 
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>>> RSVP FOR THE WEBINAR HERE! <https://www.codepink.org/092522?recruiter_id=428144>
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>>> The U.S. and NATO, whose Response Force is composed of some 40,000 international troops, are exacerbating a conflict that could easily result in war between the world’s two most heavily armed nuclear states – the United States and Russia. We must immediately demand that NATO, the U.S., Russia and Ukraine pursue vigorous diplomacy for a negotiated solution. There is every reason to believe that a compromise can be made with Russia, including a guarantee that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO.
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>>> RSVP for today’s webinar and send a message to your representatives in Congress, telling them to pressure Biden not to go to war with Russia over Ukraine. Tell Congress that you want negotiations, not escalation. 
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>>> Since 2015, the Minsk II Accord has successfully prevented a new escalation of the civil war in Ukraine. But the United States and NATO have encouraged the Ukrainian government to ignore its obligations under Minsk II, and to instead reassert absolute sovereignty over the Donbas region. They have supplied powerful weapons, which Ukraine has deployed and used in Eastern Ukraine. 
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>>> Russia has always been opposed to NATO’s eastern expansion to its borders, and it is determined to stop Ukraine from entering NATO. In 2008, when Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko first applied for NATO membership, President Putin called Ukrainian membership "a direct threat" to Russia. NATO is a military alliance that should have dissolved with the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. It should certainly not be expanding to include Ukraine. 
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>>> Rather than NATO dissolving with the Warsaw Pact, as it should have done, it has violated the agreements that brought the original Cold War to an end and reunified Germany. Instead of keeping its promise not to expand eastward, it has added 11 member countries that were once either Soviet republics or members of the Warsaw Pact. 
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>>> Now the situation is teetering on the brink of a massive war. The time to speak out is now! 
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>>> Join the webinar <https://www.codepink.org/092522?recruiter_id=428144> on the crisis in Ukraine and tell Congress not to let Biden send troops to Eastern Europe! <https://www.codepink.org/ukraine_congress?e=38045e0b248b322e5a3a8b9d6b8774fb&utm_source=codepink&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ukraine_emergency_3&n=11>
>>> Towards peace,
>>> Medea and the entire CODEPINK team: Alice, Allison, Ann, Ariel, Carley, Danaka, Emily, Farida, Jodie, Justina, Kelly, Lauren, Leonardo, Madison, Marcy, Marissa, Mark, Michelle, Nancy, Olivia, Paki, Teri, Shea, and Suzie
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