[rfu-automation] Re: D'oh!

Fri Jun 23 00:11:53 CDT 2006

Yeah Joe and I are on the same page.  I don't want to kick off indecent or
profane music IF we can play it in safe harbor just because it might be
indecent or profane.  Like I said, there will be no hiphop on our station at
all if we don't play indecent or profane stuff in the automation, and that's
limiting.  If DJs can do it why can't our automation system AKA "The DJ" do
it?  I understand Gary's risk assessment, but we should try to think about
this and plan it out so that it's user friendly and that if something
happens in the studio (Zararadio crashing, etc) that folks have easily
accessible "here's what to do" available to them.

I agree this is something that's a matter of values and what image, etc we
will put out, but personally I think that w/in the framework of the rules
set down by the FCC that we should go as nuts as possible!

Lynsee

On 6/22/06, Gary Cziko <g-cziko at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> Joe et al.:
>
> Keep in mind that with the automation computer in the studio ZaraRadio can
> also be used to play music on live shows. So even if we keep our playlists
> straight, someone could play a naughty song at the wrong time.
>
> Or if ZaraRadio crashes, someone might bring it up using the wrong
> playlist.
>
> There are pros and cons of whatever we do. Since I don't listen to naughty
> music, I see no benefit to compensate for the danger of screwing up and
> getting into trouble that could shut down the station. But it is obviously a
> question of values and what one considers worth taking a risk for.
>
> --Gary
>
>
> On 6/22/06, Joe Futrelle <futrelle at shout.net> wrote:
> >
> > I think what Lynsee is saying, and I agree, is that we shouldn't ban
> > tracks from automation because of indecency--we can leave them on the
> > safe-harbor playlist. We just need to keep our playlists straight. Yes, we
> > could screw that up, but we could also screw up with unchecked music in the
> > system.
> > --
> > Joe Futrelle
> > Person
> >
> >
> > On Jun 22, 2006, at 8:47 PM, Gary Cziko wrote:
> >
> > Lynsee:
> >
> > I am only referring to music that is on the automation system. DJs with
> > shows during safe-harbor hours (10pm to 6am) can play any profane or
> > indecent material they want (obscene material can never be aired--
> > see http://radio.about.com/od/sternindecency/a/blobscenityplus.htm).
> >
> > My proposal is keep all recordings that could be considered profane or
> > indecent off the automation system (as we are doing now) and allow unchecked
> > music to be played during safe-harbor hours (which we are not doing now).
> > This is contingent upon being able to set up two music playlists in
> > ZaraRadio that will automatically switch at the right time so that only
> > checked clean music will be played from 6am to 10pm and this same music plus
> > unchecked music will be played during safe-harbor hours. Music discovered
> > later to be profane or indecent would be pulled from the automation system.
> > Music of suspected of being obscene should never be put on the automation
> > computer as this could get us into trouble even during safe-harbor hours. So
> > people should have a general idea about what they are putting on the system
> > (that it is not obscene), even if they haven't checked all lyrics for
> > profane language.
> >
> > So this is actually a "loosening up" of our policy for automation music,
> > not adding more censorship.
> >
> > --Gary
> >
> >
> > On 6/22/06, Lynsee Melchi <lynseemelchi at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> So basically this mean clean music can be heard any time. Unchecked
> > > music
> > >
> > > > >> can be heard only during safe harbor.  Known naughty music is
> > > > never heard.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am NOT okay w/censoring songs w/naughty words in them.  Censoring in
> > > the sense that we don't play them.  I have no problem w/songs being edited
> > > to the FCC's tastes, but I don't see any reason why we should just not play
> > > songs w/swear words in them.  Maybe I'm misinterpreting what "naughty music"
> > > is...
> > >
> > > This will mean that pretty much any hiphop song will never see the
> > > light of day.  There are plenty of positive hiphop songs (and other genres)
> > > that have one or two naughty words in them and I don't see why they should
> > > be penalized cos they don't pass the swear word test.  We have a lot of
> > > positive socially minded hiphop in our library that needs to be represented
> > > on our station.
> > >
> > > Sorry if I misinterpret...
> > >
> > > Lynsee
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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