[rfu-automation] Re: D'oh!
Joe Futrelle
futrelle at shout.net
Fri Jun 23 09:47:49 CDT 2006
Yeah, we don't want to exclude whole genres of music, but on the
other hand if there's a track that's obscene or otherwise obviously
completely unacceptable to the FCC to be played at any time then we
do need to pull it. So there are really four tiers that we're talking
about here.
1. Unchecked: starts on the safe-harbor playlist
2. Completely unplayable: is removed from the automation computer as
soon as we discover it
3. Indecent/profane: kept on the safe-harbor list and safeguarded in
our procedures from being played at any other time
4. Safe: copied from the safe-harbor playlist to the safe playlist
We can protect ourselves from accidentally playing the safe-harbor
playlist during the day in multiple redundant ways, some automatic,
some manual.
--
Joe Futrelle
Person
On Jun 23, 2006, at 12:11 AM, Lynsee Melchi wrote:
> Yeah Joe and I are on the same page. I don't want to kick off
> indecent or profane music IF we can play it in safe harbor just
> because it might be indecent or profane. Like I said, there will
> be no hiphop on our station at all if we don't play indecent or
> profane stuff in the automation, and that's limiting. If DJs can
> do it why can't our automation system AKA "The DJ" do it? I
> understand Gary's risk assessment, but we should try to think about
> this and plan it out so that it's user friendly and that if
> something happens in the studio (Zararadio crashing, etc) that
> folks have easily accessible "here's what to do" available to them.
>
> I agree this is something that's a matter of values and what image,
> etc we will put out, but personally I think that w/in the framework
> of the rules set down by the FCC that we should go as nuts as
> possible!
>
> Lynsee
>
> On 6/22/06, Gary Cziko <g-cziko at uiuc.edu> wrote:
> Joe et al.:
>
> Keep in mind that with the automation computer in the studio
> ZaraRadio can also be used to play music on live shows. So even if
> we keep our playlists straight, someone could play a naughty song
> at the wrong time.
>
> Or if ZaraRadio crashes, someone might bring it up using the wrong
> playlist.
>
> There are pros and cons of whatever we do. Since I don't listen to
> naughty music, I see no benefit to compensate for the danger of
> screwing up and getting into trouble that could shut down the
> station. But it is obviously a question of values and what one
> considers worth taking a risk for.
>
> --Gary
>
>
> On 6/22/06, Joe Futrelle < futrelle at shout.net> wrote:
> I think what Lynsee is saying, and I agree, is that we shouldn't
> ban tracks from automation because of indecency--we can leave them
> on the safe-harbor playlist. We just need to keep our playlists
> straight. Yes, we could screw that up, but we could also screw up
> with unchecked music in the system.
>
> --
> Joe Futrelle
> Person
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2006, at 8:47 PM, Gary Cziko wrote:
>
>> Lynsee:
>>
>> I am only referring to music that is on the automation system. DJs
>> with shows during safe-harbor hours (10pm to 6am) can play any
>> profane or indecent material they want (obscene material can never
>> be aired--
>> see http://radio.about.com/od/sternindecency/a/blobscenityplus.htm).
>>
>> My proposal is keep all recordings that could be considered
>> profane or indecent off the automation system (as we are doing
>> now) and allow unchecked music to be played during safe-harbor
>> hours (which we are not doing now). This is contingent upon being
>> able to set up two music playlists in ZaraRadio that will
>> automatically switch at the right time so that only checked clean
>> music will be played from 6am to 10pm and this same music plus
>> unchecked music will be played during safe-harbor hours. Music
>> discovered later to be profane or indecent would be pulled from
>> the automation system. Music of suspected of being obscene should
>> never be put on the automation computer as this could get us into
>> trouble even during safe-harbor hours. So people should have a
>> general idea about what they are putting on the system (that it is
>> not obscene), even if they haven't checked all lyrics for profane
>> language.
>>
>> So this is actually a "loosening up" of our policy for automation
>> music, not adding more censorship.
>>
>> --Gary
>>
>>
>> On 6/22/06, Lynsee Melchi <lynseemelchi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> So basically this mean clean music can be heard any time.
>> Unchecked music
>> >> can be heard only during safe harbor. Known naughty music is
>> never heard.
>>
>> I am NOT okay w/censoring songs w/naughty words in them.
>> Censoring in the sense that we don't play them. I have no problem
>> w/songs being edited to the FCC's tastes, but I don't see any
>> reason why we should just not play songs w/swear words in them.
>> Maybe I'm misinterpreting what "naughty music" is...
>>
>> This will mean that pretty much any hiphop song will never see the
>> light of day. There are plenty of positive hiphop songs (and
>> other genres) that have one or two naughty words in them and I
>> don't see why they should be penalized cos they don't pass the
>> swear word test. We have a lot of positive socially minded hiphop
>> in our library that needs to be represented on our station.
>>
>> Sorry if I misinterpret...
>>
>> Lynsee
>>
>>
>>
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