[rfu-automation] Re: D'oh!
Joe Futrelle
futrelle at shout.net
Fri Jun 23 18:04:35 CDT 2006
btw I realize this isn't really too different from what y'all are
already proposing; I think we're all pretty much on the same page here
--
Joe Futrelle
Person
On Jun 23, 2006, at 5:59 PM, Joe Futrelle wrote:
> I concur with some sort of labeling. But Gary I'm not sure which
> kind of labeling in iTunes you're talking about. There are a bunch
> of different ways we could do it, here are some as examples:
>
> 1. We could use the "grouping" field and use a code indicating
> whether something is unchecked, safe-harbor-only, or safe.
> 2. We could use the "genre" field for the same purpose (advantage:
> you can browse by genre; disadvantage: there's only one genre per
> track so this would destroy existing genre information on tracks,
> FWIW)
> 3. We could modify the title and put some indication in the title.
> (advantage: if Zara or any other component in the automation system
> reports or logs the track names we will know exactly when what kind
> of music is played; disadvantage: it's hard to sort on, unless you
> put the code before the title).
> 4. We could create three playlists in iTunes, one for each category
> (advantage: we can put a track in more than one category;
> disadvantage: there's no way to tell given only the file which
> playlist it's in)
>
> I don't really like any of these options, but thinking about them
> in the context of all our recent discussions it seems to me the
> safest strategy is to modify the title--like Jenn suggested but not
> using caps. Here's what I would propose. If I have the following CD:
>
> artist: Joe's Risque Lounge Act
> album: Steppin' Over the Line
> track 1: The Parental Advisory Tango
> track 2: Butterflies and Unicorns
>
> lack of notation on the titles means the tracks are unchecked. Now
> we check them and find out track 1's safe-harbor only, but track 2
> is safe, so it's indicated this way:
>
> artist: Joe's Risque Lounge Act
> album: [explicit] Steppin' Over the Line
> track 1: [explicit] The Parent Advisory Tango
> track 2: [clean] Butterflies and Unicorns
>
> what I'm proposing is twofold:
>
> 1. we put the code *first*, so when we sort any playlist by title
> it'll be sorted into the three categories.
> 2. we label an album "explicit" if any track on it is explicit
>
> The downside of putting the codes first is that the titles are
> gonna look pretty ugly. But it would certainly call lots of
> attention to the status of each track to anyone casually looking at
> a playlist or album in iTunes, and even if all someone could see
> was the title of the track they would be able to tell its status.
> We could also analyze Zara logs and determine when what kind of
> music is playing, what percentage of it is checked/unchecked, etc.
>
> --
> Joe Futrelle
> Person
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Gary Cziko wrote:
>
>> Lynsee:
>>
>> I would prefer explicit labels, as someone not knowing or
>> observing such a convention involving upper- and lower-case
>> letters could lead to errors.
>>
>> We could go with just two labels as used on iTunes: "clean" and
>> "explicit" as anything without a label would be obviously
>> unchecked while obscene is not put on the computer in the first
>> place or removed immediately if discovered.
>>
>> --Gary
>>
>>
>> On 6/23/06, Lynsee Melchi <lynseemelchi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I liked Jenn's suggestion of putting a certain type of album/
>> artist in
>> all capital letters. For example:
>>
>> Lynsee's Band (local)
>> with the albums HOME ON THE STRANGE
>> Doggy Dog
>>
>> HOME ON THE STRANGE is not checked or explicit
>> Doggy Dogg is safe.
>>
>> Or something like that.
>>
>> Lynsee
>>
>> On 6/23/06, Gary Cziko <g-cziko at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>> > Joe:
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > So there are really four tiers that we're talking about here.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 1. Unchecked: starts on the safe-harbor playlist
>> > > 2. Completely unplayable: is removed from the automation
>> computer as soon
>> > as we discover it
>> > > 3. Indecent/profane: kept on the safe-harbor list and
>> safeguarded in our
>> > procedures from being played at any other time
>> > > 4. Safe: copied from the safe-harbor playlist to the safe
>> playlist
>> >
>> >
>> > So we would play only no. 4 between 6 am and 10 pm and play
>> nos. 1, 3 and 4
>> > during safe-harbor hours. I wouldn't want to exclude Safe music
>> during
>> > safe-harbor hours.
>> >
>> > We would then need to add descriptors after the album and/or
>> track titles
>> > on iTunes so we could easily create the two ZaraRadio playlists
>> using labels
>> > such as "clean," "explicit" and "unchecked." (there would be no
>> use for an
>> > "obscene" label as these tracks would be deleted as soon as
>> discovered to be
>> > obscene--actually people should know enough about the music and
>> artist so as
>> > not to put such music on the system in the first place).
>> >
>> >
>> > If the label applied to every track in an album, the label could
>> be added to
>> > the album title (this is visible in the ZaraRadio explorer
>> windows).
>> > If the label applied to some tracks and not others on an album,
>> no label
>> > would be put on the album title and an appropriate label would
>> be added to
>> > each sont track. If all this is acceptable, then we have to
>> figure out who
>> > is going to do this work. I am willing to show people how to do
>> this, but I
>> > am not going to be listening to and labeling albums and tracks
>> myself.
>> >
>> > --Gary
>> >
>> > P.S. I am still testing out the ability of getting ZaraRadio to
>> > automatically switch from one playlist to another at the right
>> time. So far
>> > it looks posssible, but need to test a bit more.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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