[rfu-automation] Leaving in?

[Joe Futrelle]

Here's my $0.02
- editing is a lot of work; let's wait until there's a station  
policy. Thanks Lynsee for starting already, but we don't want you or  
anyone to have to redo your work
- not being able to agree on a policy is causing *lots and lots* of  
problems--not being able to proceed on bleeping stuff is just one of  
many.

Raymond, with all respect your preferences, or mine, shouldn't be the  
basis of our policy--we should focus on FCC compliance only. For  
instance I would prefer that we allow profanity 24 hours a day, but  
that's a complete nonstarter because it would almost certainly result  
in actionable cases as far as the FCC is concerned. It's going to be  
a lot harder to agree on where we would all *prefer* to draw the line  
than where we all think *the FCC* draws the line. So unless by  
"needless drama and attention" you mean "a very real threat of an FCC  
fine" I don't think the concern should factor into our policy. That  
said, we should probably stay somewhere comfortably below the line-- 
agreeing on where that is is hard anyway ...

Focusing on which words to bleep won't get us far towards agreeing on  
a policy, since that's not the basis of FCC indecency policy.  
Consider "ass." If a song says, "I'm going to kick your ass," that is  
clearly not indecent, since it doesn't in any way refer to sexual or  
excretory activities. If it says, "I've got a huge dildo up my ass,"  
that is clearly indecent. As much as possible we should strive for a  
policy that makes those kind of distinctions. So if someone doesn't  
bleep "kick your ass" but does bleep "up your [bleep]" then they  
won't get in trouble for not bleeping the former.

--
Joe Futrelle
Person


On Jun 28, 2006, at 4:29 PM, Gary Cziko wrote:

> Ray:
>
> Sorry if my last message was not clear.
>
> I thought the developing consensus was that profane and indecent  
> stuff would be played ONLY during safe harbor hours, and obscene  
> stuff never.  That is what the FCC says. I suppose the question  
> then is stuff like like "bitch" and "ass" profane and/or indecent.  
> I think it depends on the context. But I'd prefer keeping any  
> questionable stuff for safe harbor time.
>
> But as Lynsee said, we need to get input from the wider group,  
> although it would be nice if the automation group could agree ahead  
> of time on this.
>
> --Gary
>
>
> On 6/28/06, Raymond Morales <morales4 at uiuc.edu> wrote:
> I am against songs containing profanity between 6am and
> 10pm. That is just needless drama and attention to bring to
> our station. Plus, I wouldn't want kids listening to that
> anyway during the day. I realize it is more work, but I
> would rather they be bleeped or not on at all between 6am
> and 10pm. Those are just my thoughts.
>
> -Ray
>
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