[Commotion-dev] Agenda, priorities, collaboration, and other such things

Tim Yardley yardley at gmail.com
Tue Feb 1 16:05:58 UTC 2011


Agreed that there are a lot of options out there, but for now... let's
go with what we know works.

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Outback Dingo <outbackdingo at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Chris Ritzo <chris.ritzo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hey all, just wanted to say first how awesome it is to have some new
>> folks interested in hacking about on mesh wifi.
>> Thanks to Brian I have the reading group time on my calendar, so I'll
>> plan to talk more with you all there, but here are some initial
>> thoughts to some of the recent discussion.
>>
>> First things first, in addition to the git repo, we have some online
>> docs that we'd like you to have access to, read, and eventually edit.
>> To give you group access to the wiki, please create an account on
>> http://plexus.chambana.net - It's the frontend for requesting an LDAP
>> account on chambana.net servers. More info on that later.
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>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Erich Heine <sophacles at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> > Just want to get a discussion going on-list about stuff related to the
>> > actual work at hand.  What is the agenda? What is done, and what needs
>> > doing?
>>
>> These are not in any sort of priority order...
>> - *finish* a commotion image with the basic services running and
>> deploy a test bed mesh within the IMC. Thanks to Brian's work this is
>> almost done. The test bed will be our internal testing ground for
>> whatever needs tested: bandwidth tests, distributed services,
>> whatever. We also have access to outdoor hardware and could then
>> expand that test mesh into downtown Urbana.
>> - new WRT theme. write a new frontend theme (programmed in Lua/Luci
>> http://luci.subsignal.org/ ) and application hooks for openwrt,
>> customized for commotion firmware. This isn't a huge priority, but
>> ties into the next item.
>> - write a 1-2-3 setup Lua/Luci based init script that allows easy
>> setup. one of the big goals that we have is a GUI frontend for the
>> init scripts that Josh has worked on. This would need to be simple,
>> allow a series of choices for a person with no technical knowledge to
>> fill in some details (perhaps given to them by us or someone else
>> technical who is deploying a mesh) that configs their device to joint
>> the mesh, share bandwidth, etc.
>> - Some talk on the list about Batman, Batman Advanced, and OpenMesh.
>> These are great technologies and we could certainly use them. In fact,
>> OTi would like to roll all of them into commotion so that the user or
>> group deploying a mesh could choose which protocol they want to use.
>> The OpenMesh dashboard is nice, and Josh has planed to roll it into
>> the commotion firmware.bhead-11n-ampdurx-only
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> Ok, my thoughts are we want this to work, and there have been many instances
> where open-mesh has not been available
> plus the Robin firmware as has been mentioned before is not the best design,
> and lacks stability in alot of cases, as for olsr
> or batman-adv... well theres also babel/babelz......   though only olsr has
> a windows client, i question is a client is needed though
> users can connect to an AP anyway. A dashboard would be nice, so would
> autoconfiguration, instead of focusing on a luci ui
> make its plug & play... this is where I can help in the design of the image,
> we have existing c code that does exactly this. What we
> lack a decent dashboard
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>> - Why not just go with OpenMesh? I dunno, you tell me. What I've been
>> told is that OLSR is simply a better routing protocol, just doesn't
>> have the non-techie frontend yet. We're on the bleeding edge here
>> folks, so any direction is fine. I could see us putting together a
>> small OpenMesh test bed and do comparison tests with the OLSR test
>> bed.
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> OM is basically, IMHO complete over engineered crap, as for the protocol
> WBM has proven time and time again, that OLSR might not be the best
> but yes it does work. Theres an array of protocols out there, all of them
> solid
> and will do the job
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