[Commotion-dev] a related crypto mesh effort: Neruda

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at guardianproject.info
Thu Apr 12 00:44:37 UTC 2012


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On 04/11/2012 05:28 PM, Michael Rogers wrote:
> On 06/04/12 15:39, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> Here's the proposal for an "open yet hardened overlay network"
>> with similar goals to Commotion from the FreedomBox people.  I
>> like their idea for using the host key fingerprint as a normal
>> IPv6 address, since they can be the same length.  This allows
>> for multiple crypto algorithms to be used, and might allow for
>> more transparent operation.
> 
> It might be worth looking at the Host Identity Protocol, which
> does something similar:
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4423 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5201
> 
> Isaac Wilder <isaac at freenetworkmovement.org> wrote:
>>> In particular, Neruda would be a distributed hash table whose 
>>> search keys would be long-form GPG Key IDs, and whose values 
>>> would be the IPv6 address currently associated with the key in 
>>> question. (Search key and crypto key are therefore identical).
> 
> There's a privacy issue here that bothers me. Any participant in
> the DHT can potentially track the IP addresses stored under a given
> GPG key over time, thus tracking the location of the key's owner,
> and can potentially see which IP addresses perform lookups for
> which GPG keys, thus discovering social relationships.
> 
> (Sorry for sending two criticising emails in one day!)

Good to hear your opinion!  I for one don't have much info on this
proposal, so the more info the better, in my opinion.

.hc
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