[Commotion-dev] Mesh visualization/mapping options

Mon Apr 22 20:03:16 UTC 2013

Hello,

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Dan Staples <
danstaples at opentechinstitute.org> wrote:

> That's a good idea, Paul. I've been thinking about a lot of things that
> we could use the Rhizome layer to replicate across a mesh. One thing
> that could make it more useful for things like this is having a RESTful
> API, especially for web-based applications. Are there any plans for
> expanding the Rhizome API?

Funny you should mention this.  We were just yesterday talking about
HTTP-based APIs to get to contents of Rhizome bundles.  This would map very
naturally to a RESTful-type interface.

So in short, yes, we do intend to expand the Rhizome API as and when we are
able.  A simplistic implementation of an API that will allow access to
HTTP-transported documents from in a bundle is likely to show up in the
coming weeks, but I will let Jeremy confirm or deny my understanding of
this ;)

Paul.

> On Wed 17 Apr 2013 07:09:33 PM EDT, Paul Gardner-Stephen wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Another approach to replicating this visualisation data is to use
> > Rhizome to replicate the network structure information for
> > visualisation on nodes. This could feasibly be integrated with these
> > existing tools.
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Dan Staples
> > <danstaples at opentechinstitute.org
> > <mailto:danstaples at opentechinstitute.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     Also moving this discussion to the dev list. We've been talking
> >     about re-writing or replacing the clunky OLSR-Viz that we
> >     currently use to visualize a Commotion mesh on the OpenWRT
> >     firmware. Below we mention a couple options:
> >
> >     1) Freifunks super jazzy uber-visualizer:
> >     http://freifunk-gw01.hamburg.ccc.de/ffhhmap/nodes.html
> >     2) AlterMundi's altermap: http://mapa.mesh.altermundi.net/
> >
> >     I personally like the decentralized, replicated nature of
> >     Altermap, which synchronizes data between hub nodes (using
> >     CouchDB), so that each has a full picture of the entire network.
> >     To build off this idea, we could have nodes pushing their
> >     link-state data to nearby hubs, and then the nodes could
> >     periodically pull summarized snapshots of the network map that
> >     they could present to clients. If the clients want more detailed
> >     info, there could be a link to a nearby hub node, which would
> >     present a visualization of the full data set. The hub node could
> >     be running a much more in-depth visualization, perhaps using
> >     something like Freifunk's map.
> >
> >     Here's a quick sketch of how this could be architected:
> >     http://www.asciiflow.com/#Draw6659252420885764096.
> >
> >
> >     -------- Original Message --------
> >     Subject:  Re: [OTI-Tech] Freifunks new node map
> >     Date:     Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:29:39 +0200
> >     From:     Dan Staples <danstaples at opentechinstitute.org>
> >     <mailto:danstaples at opentechinstitute.org>
> >     To:       oti-tech at lists.opentechinstitute.org
> >     <mailto:oti-tech at lists.opentechinstitute.org>
> >
> >
> >
> >     On 04/17/2013 12:54 AM, Will Hawkins wrote:
> >     > I've seen some pretty cool network layout "stuff" that is done
> with d3
> >     > and I think that it would be very worthwhile to investigate how to
> use
> >     > it for the layout engine for olsr-viz!
> >     >
> >     > Will
> >     >
> >     > On 04/16/2013 06:28 PM, Georgia Bullen wrote:
> >     >> using d3 & leaflet!
> >     >>
> >     >> nice.
> >     >>
> >     >> that's what i've been suggesting to jrb and preston as a way of
> >     >> combining geographic info and network info.
> >     >>
> >     >> -GA
> >     >>
> >     >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Seamus Tuohy <
> s2e at opentechinstitute.org
> >     > <mailto:s2e at opentechinstitute.org>> <mailto:
> s2e at opentechinstitute.org> <mailto:s2e at opentechinstitute.org>> wrote:
> >     >>
> >     >>      It is just so pretty... btw, #battlemesh is the official
> channel of
> >     >>      battlemesh and it is starting to become active.
> >     >>
> >     >>      http://freifunk-gw01.hamburg.ccc.de/ffhhmap/nodes.html
> >     >>
> >     >>      s2e
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> >     I'd also like to point to AlterMundi's mapping software:
> >     http://mapa.mesh.altermundi.net/
> >
> >     The front-end view isn't super sophisticated, but I like their
> back-end
> >     model for collecting the nodes' data. Basically groups of nodes
> report
> >     their link-state info (via JSON) to nearby nodes/servers running
> >     CouchDB. Each of these DBs are federated and synchronize their data
> to a
> >     central internet-routable web server that provides the front-end
> >     display. It's decentralized, and could fit well with our
> >     BigBoard/LittleBoard idea.
> >
> >     AlterMundi's altermap code is here:
> >     https://colectivo.altermundi.net/projects
> >
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