[Commotion-discuss] MtP router network

Thu Aug 1 15:01:52 UTC 2013

Isn't it the same issue we hit during the workshop in Moscow? In this
case Josh King knows details.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Seamus Tuohy <s2e at opentechinstitute.org> wrote:
> Hey all. I had not started work diagnosing it. Now that we have some
> replication it sounds urgent enough to put my other work aside and
> start on it today.
>
> Preston, Is it the version downloadable from the Commotion site or a
> build that you compiled yourself? And, Ryan we determined that the build
> you were using was a custom compiled build from Griffin. Correct?
>
> s2e
>
> On 07/31/2013 06:18 PM, Ryan Gerety wrote:
>> After a further chat with Preston, this seems like it *might* be the
>> same problem I encountered at the Hackerspace in Tunis.  When using the
>> AP of the gateway node the client can access the internet and when on
>> another mesh node (say via ssh) you can access the internet, however,
>> when you are on the AP of another node you cannot access the internet.
>>
>> I had sent this to the tech list about two weeks ago, and in the office
>> Seamus and Griffin thought it might be a zone issue.  Seamus and Griffin
>> did you discover what the problem actually was?  Were you able to
>> replicate the problem?
>>
>> Best,
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jack,
>>>
>>> I went yesterday to test out the router again, with my laptop and with
>>> a phone. (I did make the only available access point the open
>>> MtPCWN_Paloma, so that's ok).
>>>
>>> I associated with the access point easily, but the router wouldn't
>>> serve me the splash screen on my laptop. It took a long time on my
>>> phone, and when I clicked through to the internet, it just kept
>>> spinning trying to get me to a webpage. I unplugged and re-plugged the
>>> router and the same problem happened.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what the problem is there - I hope that it's something
>>> that will not happen all the time. I'm putting word in to the
>>> commotion-discuss list to see if they can provide any insight.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Jack McKay <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Preston: I tried twice, first with an iPad, then with our ANC laptop.
>>>> Could
>>>> not make the connection at all.
>>>>
>>>> The HP laptop: "Windows cannot connect". The troubleshooter suggested a
>>>> power-down reset of the router.
>>>>
>>>> This was to MtPCWM, the one that was previously secured, but now appears
>>>> unsecured. The "_ap" version did not appear.
>>>>
>>>> Re video streaming, our meetings are heavily text-centered, displayed
>>>> on a
>>>> screen. And I mean pages of text, not PowerPoint slides with big print.
>>>>
>>>> The resolution available from video streaming isn't adequate to make
>>>> that
>>>> text legible. That was true in PowerPoint mode as well. And if the
>>>> viewer
>>>> can't read our text, then the viewer cannot really follow our
>>>> proceedings.
>>>> Tried that, and determined that screen-sharing was necessary to
>>>> provide the
>>>> viewer with legible displays.
>>>>
>>>> -- Jack
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 11:30 AM 7/30/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Update for all:
>>>>>
>>>>> The software on both the MPCO and Paloma (la casa) routers is updated
>>>>> to the newest version of the router software, Commotion. Performance
>>>>> is was pretty fast on both of them when I tested.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill, when we get a chance I can go over the new software with you -
>>>>> soon (hopefully) it will make sense to update all the routers in the
>>>>> network.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, let us know how your Skype test goes Jack. I still wonder if the
>>>>> best solution would just be a live video stream instead of making
>>>>> people use their Skype accounts to call in - we can discuss that
>>>>> further if you'd like.
>>>>>
>>>>> And when I get a chance, Robert, I need to come back and re-mount the
>>>>> router on your office roof.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for staying in touch all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Preston
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Preston Rhea <preston.rhea at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> All: bus is late from downtown, just got on the 42. May be 15 to 20
>>>>>> late.
>>>>>> Sorry!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2013 11:53 PM, "R.F. Mail" <rfmail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes to both Preston & Jack.  6pm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Jack McKay <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I'd like to learn what I can about this system. Do I have the
>>>>>>>> location right? 3213 Mt Pleasant Street? -- Jack
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 09:33 PM 7/23/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK - Robert, could we meet at the MPCO around 6:00 tomorrow
>>>>>>>>> (Wednesday)? Jack, if you'd like to join and watch what goes on
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> maintenance with the network, that would be great.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Bill Comisky <bcomisky at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Preston,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I probably can't do evenings, as Nicole is going out of town this
>>>>>>>>>> week
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> I've got the child-care duties.  But let me know when it's
>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>> happen
>>>>>>>>>> just in case, and maybe take some notes on the process to share.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>> <preston.rhea at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bill and Robert,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday evening best for you this
>>>>>>>>>>> week?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Bill Comisky
>>>>>>>>>>> <bcomisky at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know when you are going to troubleshoot.  If I'm free
>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> to look over your shoulder..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We did the Skype thing, using my T-mobile cellphone as a mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hotspot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked quite nicely, but it put a pretty big ding in my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> monthly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>>>>>> budget, so I don't care to make this a regular thing. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wireless
>>>>>>>>>>>>> system would be ideal! Just let me know how I can support these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> repairs, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how the ANC might support its expansion. -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 11:09 AM 7/16/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I had the tool I needed to do it tonight but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to wait until early next week to fix it. Sorry it won't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tonight Jack!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert I'll stay in touch to arrange for next week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our ANC meeting starts at 7 pm Tuesday. Let me know how I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routers working. It would be marvelous to have it available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I'm planning on sending out via Skype. -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 05:29 PM 7/15/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm back and available to help tomorrow evening - Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fix things on your router for a bit at that time? We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access to the room I think. If we can fix Robert's router,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixing the router on top of La Casa should be easier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know when it might be fixed, how I can help, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're meeting on the 16th. Unfortunate that it won't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're trying to establish remote access to our meetings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now the availability of wi-fi at the library, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access at La Casa, is a force in favor of moving our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library. I'd prefer to stay at La Casa, for a number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet access there would help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 02:28 PM 7/2/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checking in real quick,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The gateway is up the street at the mount pleasant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert manages, above tex mex burritos. I know there is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> node. Also the software ought to be updated on both nodes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to go on the roof to service the gateway node.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think there is no problem with the link between the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gateway and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the La
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casa node, likely just with the gateway. It's probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overloaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either, though we can check that when I'm back (week of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25th).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glad to hear the ANC is interested in some support. Let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I'm back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2013 11:25 AM, "Jack McKay"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something's not right. Let me know how I can help you fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> La Casa is open during the hours of operation of the shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downstairs. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keys and can get in anytime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 10:57 AM 7/2/2013, Bill Comisky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that's pretty poor, either the link is very very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marginal,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something's broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston, I assume you've checked this link before, during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you remember:  What the link speed was?  Where is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gateway
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connects to? This week I had to remount the node on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chimney to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because a cable tie failure left it laying on the roof.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that may have happened on either end of the link if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the past.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ran the CNET downlink-only speed test this morning, after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpretation equipment over to Rob Richardson for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deauville/Romero
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ceremonies. The result: 20 kbps. That is not a missed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decimal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> erroneous prefix. Twenty, count them, kilo-bps. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routine web access during a meeting, much less for any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> streaming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 09:02 AM 7/1/2013, Jack McKay wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill -- This was before the access page. That is, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wi-fi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made, but there's no internet connection, and a pop-up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clicking there to bring up the browser and provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clicking that brings up the browser, but that then shows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message, something about the site perhaps being under
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Generally La Casa is open during the day, for access to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground floor level. Our meeting room is directly up a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stairs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the door.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What time would you be coming by? I could meet you there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 06:54 PM 6/30/2013, Bill Comisky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to go by with my laptop tomorrow.  Was this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> click-through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for access page?  I've had problems with it before trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken after I click through, but the web access would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retype another URL.  I haven't been inside La Casa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in?  Where is the meeting room?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Took the ANC laptop to La Casa again, intending to run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LiveStream
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uplink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed test. But I couldn't get the internet connection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would connect to MtPCMWS_Paloma_ap, bring up the message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser for "more information", but that got only an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something about the site perhaps being under maintenance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible. -- Jack At 02:43 PM 6/29/2013, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, got some answers, via a little test at the site --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet access from our meeting room via this network.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MtPCMWS_Paloma_ap,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if memory serves. Nominal speed is 2 Mbps. This will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC's needs for ordinary use during meetings, e.g.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displaying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anc1d.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website, or whatever else seems desirable. Surely the ANC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this network. (How much? To whom? Info needed.) IMHO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suitable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for audio streaming, because it is a public shared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caution from the beginning to refrain from hogging the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps the ANC could contribute to the capacity of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> providing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources at La Casa to be linked into the network. --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:47
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6/29/2013, Bill Comisky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jack/Preston, Jack, yes, it is an open access public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roof
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install does have a local wireless access point, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depending on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meet in the building you may or may not be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know the details about the setup at La Casa, but could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions: Jack: When is your next monthly meeting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston: La Casa is not a gateway correct? Do you know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on/in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building the:  node is installed, PoE injector is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact at La Casa you coordinated the install through?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool! We don't need much access, but it would be nice to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during our monthly meetings. We had public Wi-Fi for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library was located in its temporary facility next door,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gone. Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this an unsecured, public-access network? The ANC would,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pleased to provide a financial contribution to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be useful. -- Jack At 12:25 AM 6/29/2013, Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> router should provide Internet access - if it doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do some work on it. I'm on vacation and out of town
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks, but we could chat about this when I'm back. Also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could chat with Bill about it (copied) who has helped out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pleasant community wireless network. Cheers, Preston On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fri,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 28,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:24 PM, Jack McKay <jack.mckay at verizon.net > wrote: > I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of these units has been installed on the roof of La >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center. That's where we hold our monthly ANC meetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this router on the roof could give us access to the >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings. > -- Jack McKay > Secretary, ANC1D > > > ANC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1-D,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pleasant,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Single Member District 1D03 > 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010 >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 202-462-8692
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fax 202-265-7430 > http://DCJack.org -- Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Associate,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technology Institute New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preston.rhea Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> District
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Program Associate, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Program Associate, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Preston Rhea
>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>> New America Foundation
>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>
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