[Commotion-discuss] MtP router network

Thu Aug 1 15:40:17 UTC 2013

I used a build that Dan made for Red Hook, which is designed for
updating from active PR* networks to DR* networks in order to keep the
wireless interfaces on and meshing: http://wirelesssummit.org:8000/

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Alexander Chemeris
<alexander.chemeris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Isn't it the same issue we hit during the workshop in Moscow? In this
> case Josh King knows details.
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Seamus Tuohy <s2e at opentechinstitute.org> wrote:
>> Hey all. I had not started work diagnosing it. Now that we have some
>> replication it sounds urgent enough to put my other work aside and
>> start on it today.
>>
>> Preston, Is it the version downloadable from the Commotion site or a
>> build that you compiled yourself? And, Ryan we determined that the build
>> you were using was a custom compiled build from Griffin. Correct?
>>
>> s2e
>>
>> On 07/31/2013 06:18 PM, Ryan Gerety wrote:
>>> After a further chat with Preston, this seems like it *might* be the
>>> same problem I encountered at the Hackerspace in Tunis.  When using the
>>> AP of the gateway node the client can access the internet and when on
>>> another mesh node (say via ssh) you can access the internet, however,
>>> when you are on the AP of another node you cannot access the internet.
>>>
>>> I had sent this to the tech list about two weeks ago, and in the office
>>> Seamus and Griffin thought it might be a zone issue.  Seamus and Griffin
>>> did you discover what the problem actually was?  Were you able to
>>> replicate the problem?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jack,
>>>>
>>>> I went yesterday to test out the router again, with my laptop and with
>>>> a phone. (I did make the only available access point the open
>>>> MtPCWN_Paloma, so that's ok).
>>>>
>>>> I associated with the access point easily, but the router wouldn't
>>>> serve me the splash screen on my laptop. It took a long time on my
>>>> phone, and when I clicked through to the internet, it just kept
>>>> spinning trying to get me to a webpage. I unplugged and re-plugged the
>>>> router and the same problem happened.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what the problem is there - I hope that it's something
>>>> that will not happen all the time. I'm putting word in to the
>>>> commotion-discuss list to see if they can provide any insight.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Jack McKay <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Preston: I tried twice, first with an iPad, then with our ANC laptop.
>>>>> Could
>>>>> not make the connection at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> The HP laptop: "Windows cannot connect". The troubleshooter suggested a
>>>>> power-down reset of the router.
>>>>>
>>>>> This was to MtPCWM, the one that was previously secured, but now appears
>>>>> unsecured. The "_ap" version did not appear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Re video streaming, our meetings are heavily text-centered, displayed
>>>>> on a
>>>>> screen. And I mean pages of text, not PowerPoint slides with big print.
>>>>>
>>>>> The resolution available from video streaming isn't adequate to make
>>>>> that
>>>>> text legible. That was true in PowerPoint mode as well. And if the
>>>>> viewer
>>>>> can't read our text, then the viewer cannot really follow our
>>>>> proceedings.
>>>>> Tried that, and determined that screen-sharing was necessary to
>>>>> provide the
>>>>> viewer with legible displays.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 11:30 AM 7/30/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Update for all:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The software on both the MPCO and Paloma (la casa) routers is updated
>>>>>> to the newest version of the router software, Commotion. Performance
>>>>>> is was pretty fast on both of them when I tested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill, when we get a chance I can go over the new software with you -
>>>>>> soon (hopefully) it will make sense to update all the routers in the
>>>>>> network.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, let us know how your Skype test goes Jack. I still wonder if the
>>>>>> best solution would just be a live video stream instead of making
>>>>>> people use their Skype accounts to call in - we can discuss that
>>>>>> further if you'd like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And when I get a chance, Robert, I need to come back and re-mount the
>>>>>> router on your office roof.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for staying in touch all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Preston
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Preston Rhea <preston.rhea at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> All: bus is late from downtown, just got on the 42. May be 15 to 20
>>>>>>> late.
>>>>>>> Sorry!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2013 11:53 PM, "R.F. Mail" <rfmail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes to both Preston & Jack.  6pm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Jack McKay <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'd like to learn what I can about this system. Do I have the
>>>>>>>>> location right? 3213 Mt Pleasant Street? -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At 09:33 PM 7/23/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK - Robert, could we meet at the MPCO around 6:00 tomorrow
>>>>>>>>>> (Wednesday)? Jack, if you'd like to join and watch what goes on
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> maintenance with the network, that would be great.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Bill Comisky <bcomisky at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Preston,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I probably can't do evenings, as Nicole is going out of town this
>>>>>>>>>>> week
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> I've got the child-care duties.  But let me know when it's
>>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>> happen
>>>>>>>>>>> just in case, and maybe take some notes on the process to share.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>> <preston.rhea at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill and Robert,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday evening best for you this
>>>>>>>>>>>> week?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Bill Comisky
>>>>>>>>>>>> <bcomisky at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know when you are going to troubleshoot.  If I'm free
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to look over your shoulder..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We did the Skype thing, using my T-mobile cellphone as a mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hotspot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked quite nicely, but it put a pretty big ding in my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monthly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> budget, so I don't care to make this a regular thing. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wireless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system would be ideal! Just let me know how I can support these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repairs, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how the ANC might support its expansion. -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 11:09 AM 7/16/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I had the tool I needed to do it tonight but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to wait until early next week to fix it. Sorry it won't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tonight Jack!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert I'll stay in touch to arrange for next week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our ANC meeting starts at 7 pm Tuesday. Let me know how I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routers working. It would be marvelous to have it available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I'm planning on sending out via Skype. -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 05:29 PM 7/15/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm back and available to help tomorrow evening - Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fix things on your router for a bit at that time? We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access to the room I think. If we can fix Robert's router,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixing the router on top of La Casa should be easier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know when it might be fixed, how I can help, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're meeting on the 16th. Unfortunate that it won't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're trying to establish remote access to our meetings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now the availability of wi-fi at the library, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access at La Casa, is a force in favor of moving our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library. I'd prefer to stay at La Casa, for a number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet access there would help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 02:28 PM 7/2/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checking in real quick,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The gateway is up the street at the mount pleasant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert manages, above tex mex burritos. I know there is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> node. Also the software ought to be updated on both nodes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to go on the roof to service the gateway node.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think there is no problem with the link between the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gateway and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the La
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casa node, likely just with the gateway. It's probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overloaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either, though we can check that when I'm back (week of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25th).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glad to hear the ANC is interested in some support. Let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I'm back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2013 11:25 AM, "Jack McKay"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something's not right. Let me know how I can help you fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> La Casa is open during the hours of operation of the shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downstairs. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keys and can get in anytime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 10:57 AM 7/2/2013, Bill Comisky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that's pretty poor, either the link is very very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marginal,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something's broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston, I assume you've checked this link before, during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you remember:  What the link speed was?  Where is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gateway
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connects to? This week I had to remount the node on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chimney to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because a cable tie failure left it laying on the roof.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that may have happened on either end of the link if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the past.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ran the CNET downlink-only speed test this morning, after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpretation equipment over to Rob Richardson for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deauville/Romero
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ceremonies. The result: 20 kbps. That is not a missed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decimal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> erroneous prefix. Twenty, count them, kilo-bps. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routine web access during a meeting, much less for any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> streaming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 09:02 AM 7/1/2013, Jack McKay wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill -- This was before the access page. That is, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wi-fi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made, but there's no internet connection, and a pop-up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clicking there to bring up the browser and provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clicking that brings up the browser, but that then shows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message, something about the site perhaps being under
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Generally La Casa is open during the day, for access to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground floor level. Our meeting room is directly up a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stairs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the door.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What time would you be coming by? I could meet you there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 06:54 PM 6/30/2013, Bill Comisky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to go by with my laptop tomorrow.  Was this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> click-through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for access page?  I've had problems with it before trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken after I click through, but the web access would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retype another URL.  I haven't been inside La Casa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in?  Where is the meeting room?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Took the ANC laptop to La Casa again, intending to run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LiveStream
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uplink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed test. But I couldn't get the internet connection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would connect to MtPCMWS_Paloma_ap, bring up the message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser for "more information", but that got only an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something about the site perhaps being under maintenance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible. -- Jack At 02:43 PM 6/29/2013, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, got some answers, via a little test at the site --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet access from our meeting room via this network.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MtPCMWS_Paloma_ap,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if memory serves. Nominal speed is 2 Mbps. This will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC's needs for ordinary use during meetings, e.g.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displaying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anc1d.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website, or whatever else seems desirable. Surely the ANC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this network. (How much? To whom? Info needed.) IMHO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suitable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for audio streaming, because it is a public shared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caution from the beginning to refrain from hogging the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps the ANC could contribute to the capacity of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> providing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources at La Casa to be linked into the network. --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:47
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6/29/2013, Bill Comisky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jack/Preston, Jack, yes, it is an open access public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roof
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install does have a local wireless access point, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depending on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meet in the building you may or may not be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know the details about the setup at La Casa, but could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions: Jack: When is your next monthly meeting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston: La Casa is not a gateway correct? Do you know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on/in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building the:  node is installed, PoE injector is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact at La Casa you coordinated the install through?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool! We don't need much access, but it would be nice to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during our monthly meetings. We had public Wi-Fi for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library was located in its temporary facility next door,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gone. Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this an unsecured, public-access network? The ANC would,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pleased to provide a financial contribution to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be useful. -- Jack At 12:25 AM 6/29/2013, Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> router should provide Internet access - if it doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do some work on it. I'm on vacation and out of town
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks, but we could chat about this when I'm back. Also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could chat with Bill about it (copied) who has helped out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pleasant community wireless network. Cheers, Preston On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fri,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 28,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:24 PM, Jack McKay <jack.mckay at verizon.net > wrote: > I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of these units has been installed on the roof of La >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center. That's where we hold our monthly ANC meetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this router on the roof could give us access to the >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings. > -- Jack McKay > Secretary, ANC1D > > > ANC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1-D,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pleasant,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Single Member District 1D03 > 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010 >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 202-462-8692
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fax 202-265-7430 > http://DCJack.org -- Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Associate,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technology Institute New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preston.rhea Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> District
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Program Associate, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Program Associate, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>> New America Foundation
>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>
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Preston Rhea
Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
New America Foundation
+1-202-570-9770
Twitter: @prestonrhea