[Commotion-discuss] MtP router network

Thu Aug 1 17:43:46 UTC 2013

Hey all,

So, I can't get the bug to recreate itself from in the office. If anyone
still has this problem or runs into it in the near future can you run
debug-helper on the AP node as well as on the gateway node and send
those files to me so that we can check the firewall settings.

s2e

On 08/01/2013 11:40 AM, Preston Rhea wrote:
> I used a build that Dan made for Red Hook, which is designed for
> updating from active PR* networks to DR* networks in order to keep the
> wireless interfaces on and meshing: http://wirelesssummit.org:8000/
> 
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Alexander Chemeris
> <alexander.chemeris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Isn't it the same issue we hit during the workshop in Moscow? In this
>> case Josh King knows details.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Seamus Tuohy <s2e at opentechinstitute.org> wrote:
>>> Hey all. I had not started work diagnosing it. Now that we have some
>>> replication it sounds urgent enough to put my other work aside and
>>> start on it today.
>>>
>>> Preston, Is it the version downloadable from the Commotion site or a
>>> build that you compiled yourself? And, Ryan we determined that the build
>>> you were using was a custom compiled build from Griffin. Correct?
>>>
>>> s2e
>>>
>>> On 07/31/2013 06:18 PM, Ryan Gerety wrote:
>>>> After a further chat with Preston, this seems like it *might* be the
>>>> same problem I encountered at the Hackerspace in Tunis.  When using the
>>>> AP of the gateway node the client can access the internet and when on
>>>> another mesh node (say via ssh) you can access the internet, however,
>>>> when you are on the AP of another node you cannot access the internet.
>>>>
>>>> I had sent this to the tech list about two weeks ago, and in the office
>>>> Seamus and Griffin thought it might be a zone issue.  Seamus and Griffin
>>>> did you discover what the problem actually was?  Were you able to
>>>> replicate the problem?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Ryan
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jack,
>>>>>
>>>>> I went yesterday to test out the router again, with my laptop and with
>>>>> a phone. (I did make the only available access point the open
>>>>> MtPCWN_Paloma, so that's ok).
>>>>>
>>>>> I associated with the access point easily, but the router wouldn't
>>>>> serve me the splash screen on my laptop. It took a long time on my
>>>>> phone, and when I clicked through to the internet, it just kept
>>>>> spinning trying to get me to a webpage. I unplugged and re-plugged the
>>>>> router and the same problem happened.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure what the problem is there - I hope that it's something
>>>>> that will not happen all the time. I'm putting word in to the
>>>>> commotion-discuss list to see if they can provide any insight.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Jack McKay <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Preston: I tried twice, first with an iPad, then with our ANC laptop.
>>>>>> Could
>>>>>> not make the connection at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The HP laptop: "Windows cannot connect". The troubleshooter suggested a
>>>>>> power-down reset of the router.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was to MtPCWM, the one that was previously secured, but now appears
>>>>>> unsecured. The "_ap" version did not appear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Re video streaming, our meetings are heavily text-centered, displayed
>>>>>> on a
>>>>>> screen. And I mean pages of text, not PowerPoint slides with big print.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The resolution available from video streaming isn't adequate to make
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> text legible. That was true in PowerPoint mode as well. And if the
>>>>>> viewer
>>>>>> can't read our text, then the viewer cannot really follow our
>>>>>> proceedings.
>>>>>> Tried that, and determined that screen-sharing was necessary to
>>>>>> provide the
>>>>>> viewer with legible displays.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 11:30 AM 7/30/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Update for all:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The software on both the MPCO and Paloma (la casa) routers is updated
>>>>>>> to the newest version of the router software, Commotion. Performance
>>>>>>> is was pretty fast on both of them when I tested.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill, when we get a chance I can go over the new software with you -
>>>>>>> soon (hopefully) it will make sense to update all the routers in the
>>>>>>> network.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, let us know how your Skype test goes Jack. I still wonder if the
>>>>>>> best solution would just be a live video stream instead of making
>>>>>>> people use their Skype accounts to call in - we can discuss that
>>>>>>> further if you'd like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And when I get a chance, Robert, I need to come back and re-mount the
>>>>>>> router on your office roof.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for staying in touch all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Preston
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Preston Rhea <preston.rhea at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> All: bus is late from downtown, just got on the 42. May be 15 to 20
>>>>>>>> late.
>>>>>>>> Sorry!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2013 11:53 PM, "R.F. Mail" <rfmail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes to both Preston & Jack.  6pm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Jack McKay <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'd like to learn what I can about this system. Do I have the
>>>>>>>>>> location right? 3213 Mt Pleasant Street? -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At 09:33 PM 7/23/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK - Robert, could we meet at the MPCO around 6:00 tomorrow
>>>>>>>>>>> (Wednesday)? Jack, if you'd like to join and watch what goes on
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance with the network, that would be great.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Bill Comisky <bcomisky at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I probably can't do evenings, as Nicole is going out of town this
>>>>>>>>>>>> week
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got the child-care duties.  But let me know when it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>>> happen
>>>>>>>>>>>> just in case, and maybe take some notes on the process to share.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>> <preston.rhea at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill and Robert,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday evening best for you this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> week?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Bill Comisky
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bcomisky at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know when you are going to troubleshoot.  If I'm free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to look over your shoulder..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We did the Skype thing, using my T-mobile cellphone as a mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hotspot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked quite nicely, but it put a pretty big ding in my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monthly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> budget, so I don't care to make this a regular thing. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wireless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system would be ideal! Just let me know how I can support these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repairs, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how the ANC might support its expansion. -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 11:09 AM 7/16/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I had the tool I needed to do it tonight but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to wait until early next week to fix it. Sorry it won't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tonight Jack!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert I'll stay in touch to arrange for next week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our ANC meeting starts at 7 pm Tuesday. Let me know how I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routers working. It would be marvelous to have it available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I'm planning on sending out via Skype. -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 05:29 PM 7/15/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm back and available to help tomorrow evening - Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fix things on your router for a bit at that time? We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access to the room I think. If we can fix Robert's router,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixing the router on top of La Casa should be easier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know when it might be fixed, how I can help, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're meeting on the 16th. Unfortunate that it won't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're trying to establish remote access to our meetings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now the availability of wi-fi at the library, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access at La Casa, is a force in favor of moving our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library. I'd prefer to stay at La Casa, for a number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet access there would help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 02:28 PM 7/2/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checking in real quick,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The gateway is up the street at the mount pleasant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert manages, above tex mex burritos. I know there is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> node. Also the software ought to be updated on both nodes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to go on the roof to service the gateway node.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think there is no problem with the link between the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gateway and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the La
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casa node, likely just with the gateway. It's probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overloaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either, though we can check that when I'm back (week of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25th).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glad to hear the ANC is interested in some support. Let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I'm back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2013 11:25 AM, "Jack McKay"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something's not right. Let me know how I can help you fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> La Casa is open during the hours of operation of the shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downstairs. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keys and can get in anytime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 10:57 AM 7/2/2013, Bill Comisky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that's pretty poor, either the link is very very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marginal,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something's broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston, I assume you've checked this link before, during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you remember:  What the link speed was?  Where is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gateway
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connects to? This week I had to remount the node on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chimney to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because a cable tie failure left it laying on the roof.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that may have happened on either end of the link if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the past.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ran the CNET downlink-only speed test this morning, after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpretation equipment over to Rob Richardson for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deauville/Romero
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ceremonies. The result: 20 kbps. That is not a missed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decimal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> erroneous prefix. Twenty, count them, kilo-bps. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routine web access during a meeting, much less for any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> streaming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 09:02 AM 7/1/2013, Jack McKay wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill -- This was before the access page. That is, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wi-fi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made, but there's no internet connection, and a pop-up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clicking there to bring up the browser and provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clicking that brings up the browser, but that then shows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message, something about the site perhaps being under
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Generally La Casa is open during the day, for access to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground floor level. Our meeting room is directly up a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stairs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the door.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What time would you be coming by? I could meet you there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 06:54 PM 6/30/2013, Bill Comisky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to go by with my laptop tomorrow.  Was this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> click-through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for access page?  I've had problems with it before trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken after I click through, but the web access would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retype another URL.  I haven't been inside La Casa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in?  Where is the meeting room?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Took the ANC laptop to La Casa again, intending to run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LiveStream
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uplink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed test. But I couldn't get the internet connection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would connect to MtPCMWS_Paloma_ap, bring up the message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser for "more information", but that got only an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something about the site perhaps being under maintenance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible. -- Jack At 02:43 PM 6/29/2013, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, got some answers, via a little test at the site --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet access from our meeting room via this network.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MtPCMWS_Paloma_ap,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if memory serves. Nominal speed is 2 Mbps. This will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC's needs for ordinary use during meetings, e.g.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displaying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anc1d.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website, or whatever else seems desirable. Surely the ANC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this network. (How much? To whom? Info needed.) IMHO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suitable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for audio streaming, because it is a public shared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caution from the beginning to refrain from hogging the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps the ANC could contribute to the capacity of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> providing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources at La Casa to be linked into the network. --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:47
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6/29/2013, Bill Comisky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jack/Preston, Jack, yes, it is an open access public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roof
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install does have a local wireless access point, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depending on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meet in the building you may or may not be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know the details about the setup at La Casa, but could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions: Jack: When is your next monthly meeting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston: La Casa is not a gateway correct? Do you know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on/in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building the:  node is installed, PoE injector is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact at La Casa you coordinated the install through?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool! We don't need much access, but it would be nice to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during our monthly meetings. We had public Wi-Fi for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library was located in its temporary facility next door,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gone. Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this an unsecured, public-access network? The ANC would,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pleased to provide a financial contribution to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be useful. -- Jack At 12:25 AM 6/29/2013, Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> router should provide Internet access - if it doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do some work on it. I'm on vacation and out of town
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks, but we could chat about this when I'm back. Also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could chat with Bill about it (copied) who has helped out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pleasant community wireless network. Cheers, Preston On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fri,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 28,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:24 PM, Jack McKay <jack.mckay at verizon.net > wrote: > I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of these units has been installed on the roof of La >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center. That's where we hold our monthly ANC meetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this router on the roof could give us access to the >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings. > -- Jack McKay > Secretary, ANC1D > > > ANC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1-D,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pleasant,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Single Member District 1D03 > 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010 >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 202-462-8692
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fax 202-265-7430 > http://DCJack.org -- Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Associate,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technology Institute New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preston.rhea Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> District
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Program Associate, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Program Associate, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692  fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>
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>> Alexander Chemeris.
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