[Commotion-discuss] MtP router network
Preston Rhea
prestonrhea at opentechinstitute.org
Thu Aug 1 17:58:42 UTC 2013
Is the command for that just to ssh in to root and enter
debug-helper
or is there another syntax?
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Seamus Tuohy <s2e at opentechinstitute.org> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> So, I can't get the bug to recreate itself from in the office. If anyone
> still has this problem or runs into it in the near future can you run
> debug-helper on the AP node as well as on the gateway node and send
> those files to me so that we can check the firewall settings.
>
> s2e
>
> On 08/01/2013 11:40 AM, Preston Rhea wrote:
>> I used a build that Dan made for Red Hook, which is designed for
>> updating from active PR* networks to DR* networks in order to keep the
>> wireless interfaces on and meshing: http://wirelesssummit.org:8000/
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Alexander Chemeris
>> <alexander.chemeris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Isn't it the same issue we hit during the workshop in Moscow? In this
>>> case Josh King knows details.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Seamus Tuohy <s2e at opentechinstitute.org> wrote:
>>>> Hey all. I had not started work diagnosing it. Now that we have some
>>>> replication it sounds urgent enough to put my other work aside and
>>>> start on it today.
>>>>
>>>> Preston, Is it the version downloadable from the Commotion site or a
>>>> build that you compiled yourself? And, Ryan we determined that the build
>>>> you were using was a custom compiled build from Griffin. Correct?
>>>>
>>>> s2e
>>>>
>>>> On 07/31/2013 06:18 PM, Ryan Gerety wrote:
>>>>> After a further chat with Preston, this seems like it *might* be the
>>>>> same problem I encountered at the Hackerspace in Tunis. When using the
>>>>> AP of the gateway node the client can access the internet and when on
>>>>> another mesh node (say via ssh) you can access the internet, however,
>>>>> when you are on the AP of another node you cannot access the internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had sent this to the tech list about two weeks ago, and in the office
>>>>> Seamus and Griffin thought it might be a zone issue. Seamus and Griffin
>>>>> did you discover what the problem actually was? Were you able to
>>>>> replicate the problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jack,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I went yesterday to test out the router again, with my laptop and with
>>>>>> a phone. (I did make the only available access point the open
>>>>>> MtPCWN_Paloma, so that's ok).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I associated with the access point easily, but the router wouldn't
>>>>>> serve me the splash screen on my laptop. It took a long time on my
>>>>>> phone, and when I clicked through to the internet, it just kept
>>>>>> spinning trying to get me to a webpage. I unplugged and re-plugged the
>>>>>> router and the same problem happened.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure what the problem is there - I hope that it's something
>>>>>> that will not happen all the time. I'm putting word in to the
>>>>>> commotion-discuss list to see if they can provide any insight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Jack McKay <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Preston: I tried twice, first with an iPad, then with our ANC laptop.
>>>>>>> Could
>>>>>>> not make the connection at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The HP laptop: "Windows cannot connect". The troubleshooter suggested a
>>>>>>> power-down reset of the router.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This was to MtPCWM, the one that was previously secured, but now appears
>>>>>>> unsecured. The "_ap" version did not appear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Re video streaming, our meetings are heavily text-centered, displayed
>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>> screen. And I mean pages of text, not PowerPoint slides with big print.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The resolution available from video streaming isn't adequate to make
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> text legible. That was true in PowerPoint mode as well. And if the
>>>>>>> viewer
>>>>>>> can't read our text, then the viewer cannot really follow our
>>>>>>> proceedings.
>>>>>>> Tried that, and determined that screen-sharing was necessary to
>>>>>>> provide the
>>>>>>> viewer with legible displays.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 11:30 AM 7/30/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Update for all:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The software on both the MPCO and Paloma (la casa) routers is updated
>>>>>>>> to the newest version of the router software, Commotion. Performance
>>>>>>>> is was pretty fast on both of them when I tested.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bill, when we get a chance I can go over the new software with you -
>>>>>>>> soon (hopefully) it will make sense to update all the routers in the
>>>>>>>> network.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, let us know how your Skype test goes Jack. I still wonder if the
>>>>>>>> best solution would just be a live video stream instead of making
>>>>>>>> people use their Skype accounts to call in - we can discuss that
>>>>>>>> further if you'd like.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And when I get a chance, Robert, I need to come back and re-mount the
>>>>>>>> router on your office roof.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for staying in touch all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Preston
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Preston Rhea <preston.rhea at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> All: bus is late from downtown, just got on the 42. May be 15 to 20
>>>>>>>>> late.
>>>>>>>>> Sorry!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2013 11:53 PM, "R.F. Mail" <rfmail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes to both Preston & Jack. 6pm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Jack McKay <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'd like to learn what I can about this system. Do I have the
>>>>>>>>>>> location right? 3213 Mt Pleasant Street? -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> At 09:33 PM 7/23/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK - Robert, could we meet at the MPCO around 6:00 tomorrow
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wednesday)? Jack, if you'd like to join and watch what goes on
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance with the network, that would be great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Bill Comisky <bcomisky at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I probably can't do evenings, as Nicole is going out of town this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> week
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got the child-care duties. But let me know when it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in case, and maybe take some notes on the process to share.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <preston.rhea at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill and Robert,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday evening best for you this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Bill Comisky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bcomisky at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know when you are going to troubleshoot. If I'm free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to look over your shoulder..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We did the Skype thing, using my T-mobile cellphone as a mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hotspot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked quite nicely, but it put a pretty big ding in my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monthly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> budget, so I don't care to make this a regular thing. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wireless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system would be ideal! Just let me know how I can support these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repairs, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how the ANC might support its expansion. -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 11:09 AM 7/16/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I had the tool I needed to do it tonight but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to wait until early next week to fix it. Sorry it won't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tonight Jack!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert I'll stay in touch to arrange for next week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our ANC meeting starts at 7 pm Tuesday. Let me know how I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routers working. It would be marvelous to have it available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I'm planning on sending out via Skype. -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 05:29 PM 7/15/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm back and available to help tomorrow evening - Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fix things on your router for a bit at that time? We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access to the room I think. If we can fix Robert's router,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixing the router on top of La Casa should be easier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know when it might be fixed, how I can help, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're meeting on the 16th. Unfortunate that it won't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're trying to establish remote access to our meetings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now the availability of wi-fi at the library, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access at La Casa, is a force in favor of moving our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library. I'd prefer to stay at La Casa, for a number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet access there would help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 02:28 PM 7/2/2013, Preston Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checking in real quick,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The gateway is up the street at the mount pleasant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert manages, above tex mex burritos. I know there is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> node. Also the software ought to be updated on both nodes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to go on the roof to service the gateway node.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think there is no problem with the link between the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gateway and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the La
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casa node, likely just with the gateway. It's probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overloaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either, though we can check that when I'm back (week of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25th).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glad to hear the ANC is interested in some support. Let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I'm back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2013 11:25 AM, "Jack McKay"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something's not right. Let me know how I can help you fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> La Casa is open during the hours of operation of the shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downstairs. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keys and can get in anytime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 10:57 AM 7/2/2013, Bill Comisky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that's pretty poor, either the link is very very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marginal,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something's broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston, I assume you've checked this link before, during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you remember: What the link speed was? Where is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gateway
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connects to? This week I had to remount the node on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chimney to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because a cable tie failure left it laying on the roof.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that may have happened on either end of the link if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the past.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ran the CNET downlink-only speed test this morning, after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpretation equipment over to Rob Richardson for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deauville/Romero
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ceremonies. The result: 20 kbps. That is not a missed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decimal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> erroneous prefix. Twenty, count them, kilo-bps. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routine web access during a meeting, much less for any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> streaming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 09:02 AM 7/1/2013, Jack McKay wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill -- This was before the access page. That is, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wi-fi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made, but there's no internet connection, and a pop-up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clicking there to bring up the browser and provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clicking that brings up the browser, but that then shows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message, something about the site perhaps being under
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Generally La Casa is open during the day, for access to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground floor level. Our meeting room is directly up a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stairs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the door.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What time would you be coming by? I could meet you there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 06:54 PM 6/30/2013, Bill Comisky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to go by with my laptop tomorrow. Was this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> click-through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for access page? I've had problems with it before trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken after I click through, but the web access would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retype another URL. I haven't been inside La Casa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in? Where is the meeting room?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Took the ANC laptop to La Casa again, intending to run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LiveStream
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uplink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed test. But I couldn't get the internet connection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would connect to MtPCMWS_Paloma_ap, bring up the message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser for "more information", but that got only an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something about the site perhaps being under maintenance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible. -- Jack At 02:43 PM 6/29/2013, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, got some answers, via a little test at the site --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet access from our meeting room via this network.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MtPCMWS_Paloma_ap,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if memory serves. Nominal speed is 2 Mbps. This will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC's needs for ordinary use during meetings, e.g.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displaying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anc1d.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website, or whatever else seems desirable. Surely the ANC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this network. (How much? To whom? Info needed.) IMHO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suitable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for audio streaming, because it is a public shared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caution from the beginning to refrain from hogging the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps the ANC could contribute to the capacity of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> providing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources at La Casa to be linked into the network. --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:47
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6/29/2013, Bill Comisky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jack/Preston, Jack, yes, it is an open access public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roof
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install does have a local wireless access point, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depending on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meet in the building you may or may not be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know the details about the setup at La Casa, but could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions: Jack: When is your next monthly meeting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston: La Casa is not a gateway correct? Do you know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on/in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building the: node is installed, PoE injector is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact at La Casa you coordinated the install through?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Jack McKay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jack.mckay at verizon.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool! We don't need much access, but it would be nice to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during our monthly meetings. We had public Wi-Fi for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library was located in its temporary facility next door,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gone. Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this an unsecured, public-access network? The ANC would,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pleased to provide a financial contribution to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be useful. -- Jack At 12:25 AM 6/29/2013, Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> router should provide Internet access - if it doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do some work on it. I'm on vacation and out of town
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks, but we could chat about this when I'm back. Also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could chat with Bill about it (copied) who has helped out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pleasant community wireless network. Cheers, Preston On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fri,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 28,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:24 PM, Jack McKay <jack.mckay at verizon.net > wrote: > I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of these units has been installed on the roof of La >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center. That's where we hold our monthly ANC meetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this router on the roof could give us access to the >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings. > -- Jack McKay > Secretary, ANC1D > > > ANC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1-D,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pleasant,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Single Member District 1D03 > 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010 >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 202-462-8692
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fax 202-265-7430 > http://DCJack.org -- Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Associate,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technology Institute New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preston.rhea Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692 fax 202-265-7430
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> District
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1D03
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692 fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Program Associate, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692 fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Program Associate, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692 fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692 fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ANC 1-D, Mount Pleasant, Single Member District 1D03
>>>>>>> 3200 19th St NW, DC 20010
>>>>>>> ph. 202-462-8692 fax 202-265-7430
>>>>>>> http://DCJack.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Preston Rhea
>>>>>> Field Analyst, Open Technology Institute
>>>>>> New America Foundation
>>>>>> +1-202-570-9770
>>>>>> Skype: preston.rhea
>>>>>> Twitter: @prestonrhea
>>>>>> http://prestonrhea.org/
>>>>>>
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