[Commotion-discuss] Initial results of installing on unsupported Routerboards

Tue Nov 18 11:58:02 EST 2014

Andy,

I think that switch config makes the most sense. I haven't yet created one
for my RB433s but I'll take a look at it tonight. If I come up with
anything meaningful I'll get it up on github.

-Adam

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Andy Gunn <andygunn at opentechinstitute.org>
wrote:

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> Hey Adam - we received a few MikroTik RB433 systems with R52nM Wi-Fi
> cards (two per board for multi-radio testing), and are going to start
> experimenting with Commotion on them. Did you make progress with the
> switch setup for these boards?
>
> We would like to offer official support images for these boards, but
> will need to incorporate a default switch configuration as well. My
> thinking was:
> eth1: WAN (DHCP client by default, configurable to static or DHCP server)
> eth2 and eth3: LAN (DHCP server enabled, bridged with APs)
>
> If you have information or switch configurations, please create an
> issue in the commotion-router github queue:
> https://github.com/opentechinstitute/commotion-router/issues
>
> That will really help us out, thanks!
> - -Andy
>
>
> On 11/05/2014 10:41 PM, Adam Steele wrote:
> > The testing continues. I let OpenWRT build things overnight (I need
> > a faster build box) and got a working kmod-ath5k. Got that
> > installed on my four RouterBoards and cards started showing up.
> >
> > One hiccup I've had is that the automatic gateway detection doesn't
> > work on the RB433/RB433AH (which has a WAN port and 2 LAN ports).
> > When left to "auto" mode the RB433/AH will never hand out DHCP
> > leases to LAN clients (Wireless or Ethernet). I'm guessing the
> > vlan/switch isn't setup properly but I haven't looked at it yet.
> > For now I've just set it to always hand out leases.
> >
> > Another problem I've been chasing down is evidently a faulty
> > 2.4GHz card. When I turn it on it destroys the 900MHz mesh (the
> > 900MHz cards are technically 2.4GHz cards with transverters, so
> > they can be susceptible to strong 2.4GHz interference). ETX will go
> > from 1.000 to a minimum of 2.500, with many links being >4. Not
> > exactly sure how this single card is bringing the mesh to a halt,
> > that will be tomorrows task.
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Andy Gunn
> > <andygunn at opentechinstitute.org
> > <mailto:andygunn at opentechinstitute.org>> wrote:
> >
> > I think that makes sense, as long as the file doesn't change very
> > often?
> >
> > Can we link directly to the proper file on the Downloads page? We
> > can put a footnote in at the bottom of the MikroTik table that this
> > file comes from OpenWRT.
> >
> >
> > On 11/05/2014 11:29 AM, Josh King wrote:
> >> Sure, I can do that. Though in this case, I think it makes the
> >> most sense just to remove the netboot image from the downloads
> >> page and update the documentation to direct them to download it
> >> from OpenWRT's website, unless you think there's a need to mirror
> >> the file.
> >
> >> On 11/05/2014 11:00 AM, Andy Gunn wrote:
> >>> That makes sense to me Josh. Can you update the website /
> >>> downloads page with the proper image? I will need to update
> >>> the installation documentation and test again.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/05/2014 10:55 AM, Josh King wrote:
> >>>> It may make sense for us just to update the documentation to
> >>>> recommend using the stock netboot image rather than our own.
> >>>> Although Commotion can run in 32 MB of RAM, it does make
> >>>> sense that that amount of memory might not be able to hold
> >>>> the netboot filesystem, all of its Commotion processes, AND
> >>>> the install image. Since there's no real reason that the
> >>>> netboot image has to be Commotion, it could save some
> >>>> trouble.
> >>>
> >>>> On 11/05/2014 10:20 AM, Josh King wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 11/04/2014 11:09 AM, Andy Gunn wrote:
> >>>>>> Hey Adam - thanks for the note about this. We might need
> >>>>>> to modify our installation instructions for the RB411 -
> >>>>>> we only have a RB411/AH in house, so we didn't catch
> >>>>>> that problem. I will make sure to get some vanilla 411
> >>>>>> boards to test.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Glad to hear the 433 boards are working. One bug we have
> >>>>>> noticed about the MikroTik radio cards is that dual band
> >>>>>> cards only show 2.4GHz in the Commotion setup wizard.
> >>>>>> There is an issue in on this:
> >>>>>> https://github.com/opentechinstitute/commotion-router/issues/149
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>
> >
> >>>>>>
> Keep us posted on the MikroTik testing!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 11/03/2014 09:30 PM, Adam Steele wrote:
> >>>>>>> I've spent the evening tinkering around with Commotion
> >>>>>>> and getting it installed on Mikrotik devices other
> >>>>>>> than the RB411AH (since I don't own one).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So far I've tried the RB433, RB433AH and RB411.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No trouble with the RB433 or RB433AH. Installed and
> >>>>>>> running. I've not poked around enough to determine
> >>>>>>> stability but it seems to be all there.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The RB411 was a bit harder. The issue with the device
> >>>>>>> is that it only has 32MB of RAM. When trying to install
> >>>>>>> the usual way it runs out of RAM during the wget2nand
> >>>>>>> process. The stock
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My work around was to boot the stock OpenWRT image and
> >>>>>>> wget2nand from there with the Commotion kernel/rootfs
> >>>>>>> files. Again, I've not poked around enough to figure
> >>>>>>> out if Commotion will be stable on only 32MB RAM but
> >>>>>>> I'll find out and report back.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Adam
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> Andy Gunn, Field Engineer
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