[C-U Smokefree] Proposed smoking ban fails in Champaign

[Varble, Matt]

That analysis is fairly accurate. Dodds and Ennen never supported a
total indoor ban and both of them cooked up their ultra "total ban"
including private clubs strategy as a means of political posturing
knowing it would fail since there were absolutely no exceptions (even
for a PRIVATE club) which would be viewed as potentially too extreme to
pass. 

Pirok has been consistent all along and did say a long time ago he would
do a restaurant ban only. I also know that Dodds and Ennen adopted the
Mayor Jerry's arguments on this and were nodding in agreement with every
single opposition argument. Dodds also told me that I shouldn't have
pressured her by sending out email to OUR supporters requesting they
contact her to ask her to support a smoke-free ordinance. Apparently
Dodds (wrongly) feels that public input and grass roots organizations
mobilizing her district residents to contact her on this issue is
inappropriate based on her response. 

Ennen has always been extremely unpleasant toward people and shouldn't
be a member of council based upon how much contempt she exhibits towards
the people and how lacking of people skills she has. 



-----Original Message-----
From: cu-smokefree-bounces at lists.cu-smokefree.org
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:44 PM
To: Maryly Crutcher
Cc: Daniel S. Lewart; C-U Smokefree Alliance
Subject: Re: [C-U Smokefree] Proposed smoking ban fails in Champaign

Well, i think we were seeing some deception and special-interest
favoring on the part of certain council members.  Pirok was definitely
not above board, his justifications did not match his shifting
position, probably has some ties or support from bar owners.  Dodds
definitely has an interest in specific outcomes on the downtown scene.
 she triple checked the total ban would cover indoors only... of
course because she is tied to a number of venues with extensive
outdoor seating that would benefit... however a restaurant ban might
impact their burgeoning restaurant biz... overall i think we were
seeing disingenuous positioning. They were pretending to be
sympathetic to the issue, but if they really wanted to do something,
they could certainly find a workable option. They wanted it to fail.
Double the size of that crowd and councilmembers will have to pay
attension.   It will happen.

This has never been my issue, I just joined this list after that
meeting because I was VERY disappointed in the lack of sincerity
coming from some in city council (speeches aside) and I will make sure
many people hear about this. I was more satisfied with the response of
some of the more conservative members like Vic, at least he was being
honest. I expect this kind of behavior from federal-level politicians,
but I guess it happens everywhere.

John

On 9/14/05, Maryly Crutcher <maryly7 at insightbb.com> wrote:
> I guess I'm just naive, but I am astonished to see the ban was voted
down.
> After hearing the logical and passionate arguments and pleas from all
of our
> side, including the impressive young lady who drove here from
Bloomington
> and many others, and a purely eloquent presentation by our leader,
Prez
> Scott, and seeing and hearing how poorly the other side represented
their
> cause, I felt sure it was likely to pass this time. Kudos to all who
came
> out to support and especially those who prepared and presented
statements to
> the backward-thinking Champaign City Council.
> But we will never give up.
> Maryly Crutcher
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel S. Lewart" <lewart at uiuc.edu>
> To: "C-U Smokefree Alliance" <cu-smokefree at cu-smokefree.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:19 PM
> Subject: [C-U Smokefree] Proposed smoking ban fails in Champaign
> 
> 
> > C-U Smokefree Alliance,
> >
> > Proposed smoking ban fails in Champaign:
> > http://www.news-gazette.com/localnews/story.cfm?Number=18969
> >
> > C-U Smokefree!
> > Dan
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