[CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 1, Issue 6

Tue Aug 31 13:48:43 CDT 2004

Sascha, I tried to send a comment in, and it said it wasn't open for
comment. What am I doing wrong?

mrr

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>    1. Re: Recent Washington Developments (Sascha Meinrath)
>    2. Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 1, Issue 5 (Umesh Thakkar)
>    3. Re: Recent Washington Developments (Stelios Valavanis)
>    4. Who attended the Municipal Wireless Session (2B)? (Kari Gray)
>    5. Re: Who attended the Municipal Wireless Session (2B)?
>       (Stelios Valavanis)
>    6. Amsterdam Goes Wireless (Jim Baller)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:01:53 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Sascha Meinrath <sascha at ucimc.org>
> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Recent Washington Developments
> To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
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> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Harold Feld wrote:
>
> > Time for me to call in some five minutes. :-)
>
> Done & done -- hope it doesn't hurt to be both on their as an organization
> and as an interested individual.  Sending in the comment _really_ did only
> take 5 minutes -- if everyone on this list sent a comment in today it
> would represent an amazing counterpoint to the arguments being made by
> Intel and the Satellite Industry Association.  Please take a few minutes
> right now to do this.
>
> --Sascha
>
> Here's the basic info:
>
> > Both Intel and SIA promote use of this space for licensed, rather than
> > unlicensed, access.  Notably, Both point to the lack of response by the
> > unlicensed access community and the number of parties who filed in favor
> > of licensing the band.
> >
> > Now this is something of a crock, since we had NYC Wireless, CUWIN and
> > Dandin Group (Dewayn Hendricks shop) on our comments, along with
> > Consumer Fed. of America (50 million members through their individual
> > organizations) and a host of others.
> >
> > But this is what I was talking about in CU.  Our silence has impact as
> > well as our speech.  How can we tell Congress that people really want
> > this stuff when there is basically one set of comments?
> >
> > I would urge everyone to take five minutes and file now in this
> > proceeding. Go to http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi.
> >
> > Then fill out the form.  The docket number is 04-151.  In the space
> > marked "file brief comment," please say who you are and that access to
> > this space for both high power and low power mobile devices would be
> > very useful.  If you feel like it, please explicitly endorse the issues
> > raised in by NYCWireless, et al.  We objected to the professional
> > installer requirement and the inclusion of identity beacons in mobile
> > devices.  The NYCWireless comments should be at the MAP and NAF
> > websites.
> >
> > Because the IEEE 802.18 Committee has submitted comments suggesting that
> > this band be reserved exclusively for high-power point-to-point links, I
> > would urge those who feel strongly about low power mesh networks to
> > discuss the importance of low power as well as high power.
> >
> > If you have some pre-existing materials in Word or PDF or WordPerfect,
> > you can include them as an attachment.  If you want to write lengthy
> > comments and submit them, write them in one of these formats, then
> > submit as an attachment.
> >
> > If you want to see what else has been filed in the proceeding, so you
> > can reply to these comments, follow this link.
> > http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/comsrch_v2.cgi and plug in the docket
> > number (04-151).
> >
> > Technical comments explaining the value of unlicensed and rebutting
> > licensees would be enormously helpful.
> >
> > In other news, the unlicensed access in the broadcast bands proceeding
> > (04-186) has been delayed 90 days.  The new deadline for filing is
> > November 30.  An analysis of this is at my blog, Tales of the Sausage
> > Factory, hosted at http://www.wetmachine.com If you are interested in
> > helping us get comments ready for this proceeding, please let me know.
>
> -- 
> Sascha Meinrath
> Project Manager & Pres.  *  Project Coordinator  *  Project Manager
> Acorn Worker Collective *** CU Wireless Network *** Eggplant Active Media
> www.acorncollective.com  *  www.cuwireless.net   *  www.eggplantmedia.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:08:44 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Umesh Thakkar <uthakkar at ncsa.uiuc.edu>
> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 1, Issue 5
> To: cwn-summit at cuwireless.net
> Cc: cwn-summit-request at cuwireless.net
> Message-ID: <200408301808.i7UI8iA22765 at pecos.ncsa.uiuc.edu>
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>
> I have already unscribed to the list. Please would you double-check
> your mail-list.
>
> Thanks,
> Umesh
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:19:31 -0500
> From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onShore.com>
> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Recent Washington Developments
> To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
> E-mail List <cwn-summit at cuwireless.net>
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> done. took me 2mins. i pointed out greater commercial development
potential
> with openness. i feel that i represent that to some extent in our group
even
> though i'm also on the non-profit side. the FCC needs to hear it.
>
> On Monday 30 August 2004 12:01 pm, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Harold Feld wrote:
> > > Time for me to call in some five minutes. :-)
> >
> > Done & done -- hope it doesn't hurt to be both on their as an
organization
> > and as an interested individual.  Sending in the comment _really_ did
only
> > take 5 minutes -- if everyone on this list sent a comment in today it
> > would represent an amazing counterpoint to the arguments being made by
> > Intel and the Satellite Industry Association.  Please take a few minutes
> > right now to do this.
> >
> > --Sascha
> >
> > Here's the basic info:
> > > Both Intel and SIA promote use of this space for licensed, rather than
> > > unlicensed, access.  Notably, Both point to the lack of response by
the
> > > unlicensed access community and the number of parties who filed in
favor
> > > of licensing the band.
> > >
> > > Now this is something of a crock, since we had NYC Wireless, CUWIN and
> > > Dandin Group (Dewayn Hendricks shop) on our comments, along with
> > > Consumer Fed. of America (50 million members through their individual
> > > organizations) and a host of others.
> > >
> > > But this is what I was talking about in CU.  Our silence has impact as
> > > well as our speech.  How can we tell Congress that people really want
> > > this stuff when there is basically one set of comments?
> > >
> > > I would urge everyone to take five minutes and file now in this
> > > proceeding. Go to http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi.
> > >
> > > Then fill out the form.  The docket number is 04-151.  In the space
> > > marked "file brief comment," please say who you are and that access to
> > > this space for both high power and low power mobile devices would be
> > > very useful.  If you feel like it, please explicitly endorse the
issues
> > > raised in by NYCWireless, et al.  We objected to the professional
> > > installer requirement and the inclusion of identity beacons in mobile
> > > devices.  The NYCWireless comments should be at the MAP and NAF
> > > websites.
> > >
> > > Because the IEEE 802.18 Committee has submitted comments suggesting
that
> > > this band be reserved exclusively for high-power point-to-point links,
I
> > > would urge those who feel strongly about low power mesh networks to
> > > discuss the importance of low power as well as high power.
> > >
> > > If you have some pre-existing materials in Word or PDF or WordPerfect,
> > > you can include them as an attachment.  If you want to write lengthy
> > > comments and submit them, write them in one of these formats, then
> > > submit as an attachment.
> > >
> > > If you want to see what else has been filed in the proceeding, so you
> > > can reply to these comments, follow this link.
> > > http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/comsrch_v2.cgi and plug in the
docket
> > > number (04-151).
> > >
> > > Technical comments explaining the value of unlicensed and rebutting
> > > licensees would be enormously helpful.
> > >
> > > In other news, the unlicensed access in the broadcast bands proceeding
> > > (04-186) has been delayed 90 days.  The new deadline for filing is
> > > November 30.  An analysis of this is at my blog, Tales of the Sausage
> > > Factory, hosted at http://www.wetmachine.com If you are interested in
> > > helping us get comments ready for this proceeding, please let me know.
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________
> stel valavanis  http://www.onshore.com/
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:08:45 -0700
> From: "Kari Gray" <kari at commonassets.org>
> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Who attended the Municipal Wireless Session
> (2B)?
> To: <cwn-summit at cuwireless.net>
> Cc: Heather Stewart <heather at commonassets.org>, Adam Werbach
> <adam at commonassets.org>
> Message-ID: <005c01c48ed5$8b2c6fe0$d2f0fea9 at D6L6L441>
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> Hope all is well with all of you.
>
> We forgot to invite you all to sign up at our session. Could you please
let me know if you attended the session with Jim Baller, Greg Richardson,
Jim Binkley, Matt Rantanen and Annie and Pete Collins at the Summit?
>
> Please include your name, organization and contact phone number and email
addresses.
>
> Thank you!
> Kari
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:37:49 -0500
> From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onShore.com>
> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Who attended the Municipal Wireless Session
> (2B)?
> To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
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> Stelios Valavanis
> onShore, Inc.
> 312-850-5200 x115
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> On Monday 30 August 2004 04:08 pm, Kari Gray wrote:
> > Hope all is well with all of you.
> >
> > We forgot to invite you all to sign up at our session. Could you please
let
> > me know if you attended the session with Jim Baller, Greg Richardson,
Jim
> > Binkley, Matt Rantanen and Annie and Pete Collins at the Summit?
> >
> > Please include your name, organization and contact phone number and
email
> > addresses.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Kari
> >
> > !DSPAM:41339774127021332879054!
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:04:16 -0400
> From: "Jim Baller" <jim at baller.com>
> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Amsterdam Goes Wireless
> To: "CWN List" <cwn-summit at cuwireless.net>
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