[CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7
Ramon Roca
ramon.roca at guifi.net
Fri Jun 15 17:21:56 CDT 2007
Not sure what Bob is really looking for, and I agree with Wolfgang that
probably it's just about having a snmp enabled devices and configured
for collecting the appropriate data and then simply collect it on a
nagios or cacti system anywhere where it has connectivity.
However we do use another approach for doing so, which might be a bit
more complex during the setup, but is quite more effective for large
scale deployments anywhere (de-centralized), for self-organized networks
with no administrators and quite flexible in terms of devices monitored.
Is based on having a central server somewhere acting as a self service
provisioning system (assigning IP's, configurations, etc) and then, by
setting a graph server on a linux box and a few packages on the field,
that system will collect and store locally information on traffic for
all snmp-enabled devices, and by doing pings will take statistics of
latency responses and lost packets, which is not like the rssi levels,
but helpful enough to monitor the link quality and availability. The
server then ensemble the data of any node in a web page with all the
information at the database, and the graphs coming from that server
placer anywhere. That is what enabled our network to scale up to
thousands of monitored devices without collapsing servers and still
manage the network without increase admin tasks in the same proportion.
For instance, if you go to the web page:
http://guifi.net/cepa
You will see a node with lots of linked nodes and real time and historic
information of each one. Note that the graphs are coming from a distinct
server although you see all in the same web page.
If you wish, our server can also be used for hosting your network
information, regardless of where is located, and you just have to setup
the local servers on the field.
En/na Wolfgang Nagele ha escrit:
> Hi,
>
> you could just go for Linksys WRT54G and flash OpenWRT on it.
> Afterwards you can use the full Power of Linux on it and so use SNMP,
> etc. for providing you with this data. It shouldn't be a big issue to
> write a wrapper that bundles the wlscan Information into SNMP.
>
> Regards,
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
> 2007/6/15, Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>:
>> I guess I need to explain our need in more detail. We can already
>> monitor the devices that have remote monitoring available. We need
>> remote devices that can be placed in the field to listen to and
>> monitor the wireless network signal strength, connectivity etc, and
>> report back to us. These remote devices are themselves using the
>> wireless network.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
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>> >Today's Topics:
>> >
>> > 1. Re: Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Wolfgang Nagele)
>> > 2. Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6 (Bob Dixon)
>> > 3. videos from the recent summit (Phil Shapiro)
>> > 4. Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6 (Satish Jha)
>> > 5. Re: Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6 (Stelios Valavanis)
>> >
>> >
>> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >Message: 1
>> >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:08:54 +0200
>> >From: "Wolfgang Nagele" <mail at wnagele.com>
>> >Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>> >To: "National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
>> > E-mail List" <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
>> >Message-ID:
>> > <10c1e1e40706131008i920d8f0ub319f408ad1b7f5 at mail.gmail.com>
>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> >
>> >If they have SNMP output you could use Cacti quite easily:
>> http://cacti.net/
>> >For monitoring with altering, etc. you should have a look at Nagios
>> >(http://www.nagios.org/).
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Wolfgang
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >2007/6/13, Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>:
>> >> We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
>> >> networks located in rural areas.
>> >> They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
>> >> provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have
>> remote
>> >> monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not enough. We
>> >> need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at various
>> >> points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
>> >> Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
>> >>
>> >> Bob
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Robert S. Dixon, Ph D, PE
>> >> Chief Research Engineer
>> >> Ohio Academic Resources Network (OARNet)
>> >> and
>> >> Ohio State University, Office of the CIO
>> >>
>> >> Office Telephone: 614-292-1638
>> >> Fax: 614-292-7081
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >------------------------------
>> >
>> >Message: 2
>> >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:11:49 -0400
>> >From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
>> >Subject: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6
>> >To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
>> >Message-ID: <p06240812c295d58371af@[140.254.49.232]>
>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>> >
>> >We use Dlink and Teletronics access points.
>> >They are backhauled via a satellite link to the Internet.
>> >
>> >Bob
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> 1. Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Bob Dixon)
>> >> 2. Re: Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Stelios Valavanis)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >>Message: 1
>> >>Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:12:13 -0400
>> >>From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
>> >>Subject: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>> >>To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
>> >>Message-ID: <p06240805c295b8e8bd72@[140.254.49.232]>
>> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>> >>
>> >>We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
>> >>networks located in rural areas.
>> >>They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
>> >>provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have remote
>> >>monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not enough. We
>> > >need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at various
>> >>points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
>> >>Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
>> >>
>> >>Bob
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Message: 2
>> >>Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:43:08 -0500
>> >>From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
>> >>Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>> >>To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
>> >> E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
>> >>Message-ID: <200706131143.08554.stel at onshore.com>
>> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >>
>> >>what APs are you using? how are they backhauled?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>_______________________________________
>> >>stel valavanis http://www.onshore.com/
>> >>
>> >
>> >--
>> >Robert S. Dixon, Ph D, PE
>> >Chief Research Engineer
>> >Ohio Academic Resources Network (OARNet)
>> >and
>> >Ohio State University, Office of the CIO
>> >
>> >Office Telephone: 614-292-1638
>> >Fax: 614-292-7081
>> >
>> >
>> >------------------------------
>> >
>> >Message: 3
>> >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:42:04 -0400
>> >From: Phil Shapiro <pshapiro at his.com>
>> >Subject: [CWN-Summit] videos from the recent summit
>> >To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
>> >Message-ID: <1181760124.46703a7cd9da5 at webmail2.his.com>
>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> >
>> >hi everyone,
>> >
>> > here are some of the short video interviews from the recent summit.
>> >
>> >Xavier Leonard, Heads on Fire, San Diego, California
>> >http://youtube.com/watch?v=kBz6-kfUbBQ
>> >
>> >Bogdan Tancic, Serbia Wireless, Belgrade, Serbia
>> >http://youtube.com/watch?v=rCVtPcFp14E
>> >
>> >Dillip Pattanaik, IRMA-India, Orissa State Volunteers and Social
>> Workers Ass'n
>> >http://youtube.com/watch?v=1gb_Vmg45mE
>> >
>> >
>> > i've sent a bunch more short interviews over to marco
>> figueiredo for him
>> >to put on the Center for Community Informatics (CCI) web site. these
>> >videos are
>> >in h.264 format, so they'll play on any operating system.
>> >
>> > the CCI web site is at http://cci.cs.loyola.edu/
>> >
>> > you can subscribe to the feed for this web site to stay in
>> the loop
>> >about new items added to the CCI blog.
>> >
>> > thanks to everyone who participated in the video
>> interviews. you're
>> >all doing great things.
>> >
>> > phil shapiro
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Phil Shapiro pshapiro at his.com
>> >http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html
>> >http://philsrssfeed.blogspot.com
>> >http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html
>> >
>> >"Wisdom starts with wonder." - Socrates
>> >"Learning happens through gentleness."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >------------------------------
>> >
>> >Message: 4
>> >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:46:44 -0400
>> >From: "Satish Jha" <sjha at vsnl.com>
>> >Subject: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6
>> >To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
>> >Message-ID:
>> > <a7da96740706131346j1013c34fvca67872237258104 at mail.gmail.com>
>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >
>> >I am putting together a panel to explore how the wireless
>> technologies will
>> >shape the markets in India and the US in the next 5 to 10 years and
>> explore
>> >opportunities in both market and social space. I shall greatly
>> appreciate
>> >your thoughts and recommendations for people who should be
>> interested in the
>> >panel / would like to join the panel. The conference is going to be
>> held on
>> >Sept 5/6 in Washington DC.
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >On 6/13/07, cwn-summit-request at lists.cuwireless.net <
>> >cwn-summit-request at lists.cuwireless.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Send CWN-Summit mailing list submissions to
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>> >>
>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> >> cwn-summit-owner at lists.cuwireless.net
>> >>
>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> >> than "Re: Contents of CWN-Summit digest..."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Today's Topics:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Bob Dixon)
>> >> 2. Re: Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Stelios Valavanis)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:12:13 -0400
>> >> From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
>> >> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>> > > To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
>> >> Message-ID: <p06240805c295b8e8bd72@[140.254.49.232]>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>> >>
>> >> We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
>> >> networks located in rural areas.
>> >> They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
>> >> provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have
>> remote
>> >> monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not enough. We
>> >> need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at various
>> >> points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
>> >> Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
>> >>
>> >> Bob
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Robert S. Dixon, Ph D, PE
>> >> Chief Research Engineer
>> >> Ohio Academic Resources Network (OARNet)
>> >> and
>> >> Ohio State University, Office of the CIO
>> >>
>> >> Office Telephone: 614-292-1638
>> >> Fax: 614-292-7081
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 2
>> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:43:08 -0500
>> >> From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>> >> To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
>> >> E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
>> >> Message-ID: <200706131143.08554.stel at onshore.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >>
>> >> what APs are you using? how are they backhauled?
>> >>
>> >> On Wednesday 13 June 2007 10:12:13 Bob Dixon wrote:
>> >> > We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
>> >> > networks located in rural areas.
>> >> > They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
>> >> > provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have
>> remote
>> >> > monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not
>> enough. We
>> >> > need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at various
>> >> > points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
>> >> > Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
>> >> >
>> >> > Bob
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> _______________________________________
>> >> stel valavanis http://www.onshore.com/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> End of CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6
>> >> *****************************************
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >_______________________
>> >Satish Jha
>> >Co-Chair, World IT Forum (WITFOR)
>> >www.ehealth-care.net
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>> >Message: 5
>> >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:42:33 -0500
>> >From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
>> >Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6
>> >To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
>> > E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
>> >Message-ID: <200706131642.33866.stel at onshore.com>
>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >
>> >i mean how to the access points connect to the router before going
>> up the
>> >satellite link?
>> >
>> >On Wednesday 13 June 2007 12:11:49 Bob Dixon wrote:
>> >> We use Dlink and Teletronics access points.
>> >> They are backhauled via a satellite link to the Internet.
>> >>
>> >> Bob
>> >>
>> >> > 1. Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Bob Dixon)
>> >> > 2. Re: Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Stelios
>> Valavanis)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> >Message: 1
>> >> >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:12:13 -0400
>> >> >From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
>> >> >Subject: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>> >> >To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
>> >> >Message-ID: <p06240805c295b8e8bd72@[140.254.49.232]>
>> >> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>> >> >
>> >> >We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
>> >> >networks located in rural areas.
>> >> >They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
>> > > >provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have
>> remote
>> >> >monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not enough. We
>> >> >need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at various
>> >> >points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
>> >> >Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
>> >> >
>> >> >Bob
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Message: 2
>> >> >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:43:08 -0500
>> >> >From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
>> >> >Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>> >> >To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
>> >> > E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
>> >> >Message-ID: <200706131143.08554.stel at onshore.com>
>> >> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >> >
>> >> >what APs are you using? how are they backhauled?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >_______________________________________
>> >> >stel valavanis http://www.onshore.com/
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >_______________________________________
>> >stel valavanis http://www.onshore.com/
>> >
>> >
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>> >End of CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7
>> >*****************************************
>>
>>
>> --
>> Robert S. Dixon, Ph D, PE
>> Chief Research Engineer
>> Ohio Academic Resources Network (OARNet)
>> and
>> Ohio State University, Office of the CIO
>>
>> Office Telephone: 614-292-1638
>> Fax: 614-292-7081
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