[Imc-tech] Re: OJC's offer of network services to IMC (fwd)

Zachary C.Miller wolfgang at wolfgang.groogroo.com
Mon Jan 22 20:50:17 CST 2001


Zachary C.Miller wrote:
> From wolfgang at imsahp.cu.groogroo.com  Mon Jan 22 20:50:00 2001
> Delivered-To: wolfgang at wolfgang.groogroo.com
> Subject: Re: OJC's offer of network services to IMC
> In-Reply-To: <20010122195251.A7900 at che.onthejob.net> from Brandon Bowersox at
> 	"Jan 22, 2001 07:52:51 pm"
> To: Brandon Bowersox <brandon at onthejob.net>
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:49:57 -0600 (CST)
> Cc: bobcook at onthejob.net, wolfgang at groogroo.com
> From: "Zachary C.Miller" <wolfgang at wolfgang.groogroo.com>
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> IMC is getting this or better for free from piggybacking off of my DSL
> right now.
> 
> I don't think it is in IMC's interest right now to colocate unless we
> get access to a T1 or better through our colocation. Typically with
> commercial colocation deals you get full access to the full speed of
> the host's network connection but you are limitted in the total volume
> of traffic in a given month. This method of cheaply getting access to
> bursting up to T1 or T3 bandwidth is the only real benefit of
> colocation.
> 
> What IMC really needs right now is network access at the IMC
> space. This is what we need more than anything else and what we should
> spend our money on first. The only way I see OJC being able to help us
> with this is if we manage to find a way to extend our ethernet across
> the street to them either by wireless ethernet, by some laser based
> scheme, or by underground wire. I doubt any of these will be feasible.
> 
> Right now our best two bets seem to be to try to get a discounted DSL
> line from someone and/or to wait for Advancenet to put their wireless
> node up in downtown Urbana.
> 
> Thanks very much to OJC for considering us. Sorry if we weren't clear
> enough in what our needs are.
> 
> Brandon Bowersox wrote:
> > 
> > The OJC Staff agreed to make the following tentative proposal 
> > to the IMC.  The proposal includes a monthly fee and a one-time 
> > setup fee.  The IMC, if interested, is invited to suggest changes 
> > to this proposal.
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------
> > We will sell bandwidth and server space, but not DNS or other services. 
> > We can only offer this bandwidth for servers colocated at OJC's office.  
> > We can't offer any way to get this bandwidth to the IMC building.
> > Server space includes shelf space, electrical connections and electricity.
> > 
> > Monthly bandwidth plus shelf-space costs:
> > 64kbps $90
> > 128kbps $140
> > We could also sell 256kbps, if desired.
> > 
> > There will also be an initial start-up cost since OJC will need to
> > rearrange its firewall and set up bandwidth-limiting.  This will
> > require purchase of a few network cards, acquisition of an old PC,
> > and installation and configuration of a kernel with bandwidth-shaping.
> > I estimate 50 hours labor for this project, plus parts (up to $500).
> > This amounts to a $1500 one-time setup fee.
> > 
> > We will give 1 IMC representative a key to OJC and to the server room.  
> > When they use this key -- which is not to be loaned to other people -- 
> > they will be considerate of the OJC office (not bring a large group of 
> > friends in, for example).  
> > --------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Brandon
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Zachary C. Miller - @= - http://wolfgang.groogroo.com/
> IMSA 1995 - UIUC 2000 - Just Another Leftist Muppet
>  Social Justice, Community, Nonviolence, Decentralization, Feminism,
>  Sustainability, Responsibility, Diversity, Democracy, Ecology
> Ya Basta! - http://www.greens.org
> 
> 


-- 
Zachary C. Miller - @= - http://wolfgang.groogroo.com/
IMSA 1995 - UIUC 2000 - Just Another Leftist Muppet
 Social Justice, Community, Nonviolence, Decentralization, Feminism,
 Sustainability, Responsibility, Diversity, Democracy, Ecology
Ya Basta! - http://www.greens.org






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