howdy (again), one more thing -- dadaIMC (as shown -- minus the designer's touch -- on baltimore.indymedia.org) is nearing completion. see: http://www.bandwidthcoop.org/imc/tech/DadaIMC for specs & contact spud at nothingness.org for answers to all questions. dadaIMC does look quite promising, but check out the specs. what do folks think? --sascha