[Imc-tech] Re: fiscal sponsorship and request to remove e-mail from public mailing lists

[David Young]

What in particular concerns people about the archives' searchability?

This discussion does not belong on the main IMC list?

Dave

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 05:09:38PM -0500, Zachary C. Miller wrote:
> I just had a conversation with a Green who had some concerns about our
> public email archives and Sascha just forwarded me some concerns about
> our archives also, and I've heard other people express concerns. Most
> concerns lie in the fact that searching google for someone's name
> tends to bring up their lists.groogroo.com posts in the
> archives. People realize that email isn't private but still balk at
> the searchability. Having public archives is VERY important to me as a
> matter of transparency. However, after thinking about it a lot I
> thought that with so many concerns abounding about the archives being
> on google maybe it really would be a good idea to switch all or most
> of our lists over to being "member only". Effectively that would mean
> that still anyone in the world could join the list and read the
> archives, they could in fact even join the list and mark their account
> for "no mail" so they don't receive listmail.
> 
> Heck we could even set up a "guest" account with a trivial password
> that we advertise right on the listinfo page. Then anyone visiting the
> listinfo page could login easily to read the archives.
> 
> With the archives behind a password barrier they would eventually work
> their way out of google and out of the google cache. It would take
> months but it would happen eventually.
> 
> Another thing I could do instead (slightly less effective) would be to
> put in a robots.txt file asking crawlers to not index our
> archives. This would only be advisory and some crawlers might index
> anyway.
> 
> Of course one benefit to having radical political materials being in
> google's cache is that no one can erase the record of our existence by
> taking down our server.
> 
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