[Imc-tech] helping the Indymedia Network:
Sascha Meinrath
sascha at ucimc.org
Wed Apr 2 09:06:23 CST 2003
Hi all,
Is there any interest in offering to help host some of the Global
Indymedia Network's "stuff" here locally? It sounds like our tech group
is probably one of the more advanced around and doing so would give it a
"reason to be"...
Anyone interested?
--Sascha
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 00:25:24 -0500
Cc: listwork at indymedia.org
To: imc-communication at indymedia.org
From: evan <evan at protest.net>
Subject: [Imc-communication] about spam on this list / sobre spam en esta lista
Summary: Lots of mail server problems. Spam guards won't be
back for at least a week.
Summario: Muchos problemas con la servidor de correos. No hay
spam bloqueos por de una semana.
Espa=F1ol mas adelante:
Sorry for not getting back to people. We've all been busy. Sarai, the =20=
indymedia mailinglist server's fan broke several months ago. While the =20=
fan got fixed, in the process some parts, we don't know which, =20
overheated and partially broke. This past week the problem got worse =20
and Sarai kept crashing. The techies in Philadelphia are good radicals =20=
and don't have cars. Unfortunately Sarai was housed in a data center =20
many miles out in to the suburbs. Every time server crashed, which was =20=
about every day, they would have to frantically call the few activists =20=
who did have cars and beg a ride. Sarai has been moved to a different =20=
facility in Philly which is accessible by bicycle and public =20
transportation. But that hasn't stopped it from crashing. We discovered =20=
that if we turned of spam assassin the server didn't crash nearly as =20
often. The decision was made that it was better to have mailinglists =20
with spam than NO mail or mailinglists at all.
That is why all the lists are getting so much spam, there is no spam =20
blocking on indymedia lists at the moment. It was this or a mail server =20=
that was not running at all most of the time, corrupting mailinglists =20=
and generally creating a bigger mess.
At an emergency imc-tech/sysadmin meeting today the decision was made =20=
to setup a completely new server and move the primary mail hosting to =20=
it. We're trading the SF imc geeks sarai for the fridge, which i =20
believe is going to be named che, although i'm not sure. The fridge is =20=
the size of a small minifridge. Because of this we're having a little =20=
trouble finding a place to host it. I expect it will take at least a =20
week before we can transfer all the mail operations over to che which =20=
will be probably find a home in San Francisco, Seattle, or New York.
At the same meeting we discussed extending the irc network to provide =20=
better reliablity.
Hopefully listwork, the working group which manages the mail server, =20
will be able to send a general announcement to all lists explaining the =20=
problem.
Ingles mas arriba:
Che, no quiero escrita todo de explica una otra vez. Pero esta es una =20=
sumario en castellano. Por la pasado semana hay una mont=F3n de =
problemas =20
con la servidor de listas y correos, sarai. Cada vez nosotros =20
comenzamos la programa de spam asasen (assassin) para bloqueos de la =20
spam la servidor rompa. Nosotros tenemos dos posibilidades no hay una =20=
servidor de correos y listas por indymedia o una servidor con mucho =20
spam.
En una reuni=F3n hoy de la grupo de cmi technicos y admins nosotros =20
hacemos la decisi=F3n para cambiar la listas y correos para una nuevo =20=
servidor. Pienso la nombre de la nuevo servidor es Che. Esta servidor =20=
es en san francisco ahora. Pensamos es mas de una semana de trabaja =20
antes la cambiar por esta nuevo servidor. En esta tiempo hay muchos =20
spam a todos la listos de indymedia. Lo siento. En la mismo reuni=F3n =20=
fuimos hablar sobre una extensi=F3n de la red de servidores de irc por =20=
indymedia tambi=E9n.
in solidarity,
evan
On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 02:55 AM, changsing wrote:
> tony,
> in case you didn't notice, global lists are getting huge amounts of =20=
> spam these days. maybe it's some sort of attack, maybe it's not. in =20=
> any case, i assume it's very difficult for admins to keep up with it, =20=
> since i'm sure all of us are very busy.
> if you're concerned about global lists, there are a few things you =20
> might want to consider:
> - use a more kind and cooperative attitude towards people you are =20
> supposed to work with
> - step up for list administration, and help them out
> - discuss with your local collective the proposal that imc-italy sent =20=
> out to imc-process about how we use global lists
> thanx
> changsing
>
> Tony Gosling wrote:
>> Dear Anna,
>> Something that can be done immediately is for one of these three to =20=
>> log
>> into the list admin section and find out what's going on. Is it that =20=
>> non
>> members are able to post? Whatever it is it's their responsibility.
>> This is a global list and responsibility of the admins should reflect =
=20
>> that
>> whether paid or unpaid.
>> Just because we're volunteers doesn't mean global lists need to get =20=
>> lunched
>> out.
>> We all make mistakes Anna and this is an attempt to rectify the =20
>> mistake not
>> blame anyone.
>> chill,
>> Tony Gosling
>> +44 117 944 6219
>> At 15:08 29/03/03 +0100, you wrote:
>>> whow.
>>> i think there are some people doing a ot of work for the global =20
>>> network, and i'm sure all of them would be glad about any kind of =20=
>>> support. i know that about two of these three list admins and i =20
>>> assume it's true about the third person, too.
>>> if i was list admin i'd move imc-communication far down in my list =20=
>>> of priorities right now.
>>>
>>> noone of us gets paid to do this, you know? i think an attitude like =
=20
>>> " tell them to get their act together" doesn't work for something =20=
>>> like indymedia.
>> if
>>> you want something done that can be done by a lot of people, why =20
>>> don't you ask first whether there is a problem that you could help =20=
>>> with? and ask yourself why you haven't helped so far?
>>>
>>> generally it helps to sit back, breath deep and think of something =20=
>>> that
>> can be
>>> done without demanding it of other people in a tone like that.
>>> Anna
>>> imc germany/berlin
>>>
>>> Am Samstag, 29. M=E4rz 2003 13:47 schrieb Tony Gosling:
>>>
>>>> This list is being run by these three people
>>>>
>>>> dri at indymedia.org,
>>>> nobl0044 at tc.umn.edu and
>>>> evan at protest.net
>>>>
>>>> No communications just SPAM.
>>>>
>>>> If you are as annoyed as I am that they have made such a mess of it =
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>>>> please
>>>> could you email them and tell them to get their act together.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe remind them that there is a global crisis - and war - on and =20=
>>>> lives
>>>> may depend on good communications between the IMC's.
>>>>
>>>> many thanks
>>>>
>>>> Tony Gosling
>>>> Bristol IMC
>>>> http://bristol.indymedia.org/
>>>> http://www.public-interest.co.uk/
>>>> Telephone +44 117 944 6219
>>>
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