[Imc-tech] helping the Indymedia Network:
Zachary C. Miller
wolfgang at wolfgang.groogroo.com
Wed Apr 2 09:14:41 CST 2003
We'd need a better net connection.
Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is there any interest in offering to help host some of the Global
> Indymedia Network's "stuff" here locally? It sounds like our tech group
> is probably one of the more advanced around and doing so would give it a
> "reason to be"...
>
> Anyone interested?
>
> --Sascha
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 00:25:24 -0500
> Cc: listwork at indymedia.org
> To: imc-communication at indymedia.org
> From: evan <evan at protest.net>
> Subject: [Imc-communication] about spam on this list / sobre spam en esta lista
>
> Summary: Lots of mail server problems. Spam guards won't be
> back for at least a week.
>
> Summario: Muchos problemas con la servidor de correos. No hay
> spam bloqueos por de una semana.
>
> Espa=F1ol mas adelante:
>
> Sorry for not getting back to people. We've all been busy. Sarai, the =20=
>
> indymedia mailinglist server's fan broke several months ago. While the =20=
>
> fan got fixed, in the process some parts, we don't know which, =20
> overheated and partially broke. This past week the problem got worse =20
> and Sarai kept crashing. The techies in Philadelphia are good radicals =20=
>
> and don't have cars. Unfortunately Sarai was housed in a data center =20
> many miles out in to the suburbs. Every time server crashed, which was =20=
>
> about every day, they would have to frantically call the few activists =20=
>
> who did have cars and beg a ride. Sarai has been moved to a different =20=
>
> facility in Philly which is accessible by bicycle and public =20
> transportation. But that hasn't stopped it from crashing. We discovered =20=
>
> that if we turned of spam assassin the server didn't crash nearly as =20
> often. The decision was made that it was better to have mailinglists =20
> with spam than NO mail or mailinglists at all.
>
> That is why all the lists are getting so much spam, there is no spam =20
> blocking on indymedia lists at the moment. It was this or a mail server =20=
>
> that was not running at all most of the time, corrupting mailinglists =20=
>
> and generally creating a bigger mess.
>
> At an emergency imc-tech/sysadmin meeting today the decision was made =20=
>
> to setup a completely new server and move the primary mail hosting to =20=
>
> it. We're trading the SF imc geeks sarai for the fridge, which i =20
> believe is going to be named che, although i'm not sure. The fridge is =20=
>
> the size of a small minifridge. Because of this we're having a little =20=
>
> trouble finding a place to host it. I expect it will take at least a =20
> week before we can transfer all the mail operations over to che which =20=
>
> will be probably find a home in San Francisco, Seattle, or New York.
>
> At the same meeting we discussed extending the irc network to provide =20=
>
> better reliablity.
>
> Hopefully listwork, the working group which manages the mail server, =20
> will be able to send a general announcement to all lists explaining the =20=
>
> problem.
>
> Ingles mas arriba:
> Che, no quiero escrita todo de explica una otra vez. Pero esta es una =20=
>
> sumario en castellano. Por la pasado semana hay una mont=F3n de =
> problemas =20
> con la servidor de listas y correos, sarai. Cada vez nosotros =20
> comenzamos la programa de spam asasen (assassin) para bloqueos de la =20
> spam la servidor rompa. Nosotros tenemos dos posibilidades no hay una =20=
>
> servidor de correos y listas por indymedia o una servidor con mucho =20
> spam.
>
> En una reuni=F3n hoy de la grupo de cmi technicos y admins nosotros =20
> hacemos la decisi=F3n para cambiar la listas y correos para una nuevo =20=
>
> servidor. Pienso la nombre de la nuevo servidor es Che. Esta servidor =20=
>
> es en san francisco ahora. Pensamos es mas de una semana de trabaja =20
> antes la cambiar por esta nuevo servidor. En esta tiempo hay muchos =20
> spam a todos la listos de indymedia. Lo siento. En la mismo reuni=F3n =20=
>
> fuimos hablar sobre una extensi=F3n de la red de servidores de irc por =20=
>
> indymedia tambi=E9n.
>
> in solidarity,
> evan
>
> On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 02:55 AM, changsing wrote:
>
> > tony,
> > in case you didn't notice, global lists are getting huge amounts of =20=
>
> > spam these days. maybe it's some sort of attack, maybe it's not. in =20=
>
> > any case, i assume it's very difficult for admins to keep up with it, =20=
>
> > since i'm sure all of us are very busy.
> > if you're concerned about global lists, there are a few things you =20
> > might want to consider:
> > - use a more kind and cooperative attitude towards people you are =20
> > supposed to work with
> > - step up for list administration, and help them out
> > - discuss with your local collective the proposal that imc-italy sent =20=
>
> > out to imc-process about how we use global lists
> > thanx
> > changsing
> >
> > Tony Gosling wrote:
> >> Dear Anna,
> >> Something that can be done immediately is for one of these three to =20=
>
> >> log
> >> into the list admin section and find out what's going on. Is it that =20=
>
> >> non
> >> members are able to post? Whatever it is it's their responsibility.
> >> This is a global list and responsibility of the admins should reflect =
> =20
> >> that
> >> whether paid or unpaid.
> >> Just because we're volunteers doesn't mean global lists need to get =20=
>
> >> lunched
> >> out.
> >> We all make mistakes Anna and this is an attempt to rectify the =20
> >> mistake not
> >> blame anyone.
> >> chill,
> >> Tony Gosling
> >> +44 117 944 6219
> >> At 15:08 29/03/03 +0100, you wrote:
> >>> whow.
> >>> i think there are some people doing a ot of work for the global =20
> >>> network, and i'm sure all of them would be glad about any kind of =20=
>
> >>> support. i know that about two of these three list admins and i =20
> >>> assume it's true about the third person, too.
> >>> if i was list admin i'd move imc-communication far down in my list =20=
>
> >>> of priorities right now.
> >>>
> >>> noone of us gets paid to do this, you know? i think an attitude like =
> =20
> >>> " tell them to get their act together" doesn't work for something =20=
>
> >>> like indymedia.
> >> if
> >>> you want something done that can be done by a lot of people, why =20
> >>> don't you ask first whether there is a problem that you could help =20=
>
> >>> with? and ask yourself why you haven't helped so far?
> >>>
> >>> generally it helps to sit back, breath deep and think of something =20=
>
> >>> that
> >> can be
> >>> done without demanding it of other people in a tone like that.
> >>> Anna
> >>> imc germany/berlin
> >>>
> >>> Am Samstag, 29. M=E4rz 2003 13:47 schrieb Tony Gosling:
> >>>
> >>>> This list is being run by these three people
> >>>>
> >>>> dri at indymedia.org,
> >>>> nobl0044 at tc.umn.edu and
> >>>> evan at protest.net
> >>>>
> >>>> No communications just SPAM.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you are as annoyed as I am that they have made such a mess of it =
> =20
> >>>> please
> >>>> could you email them and tell them to get their act together.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe remind them that there is a global crisis - and war - on and =20=
>
> >>>> lives
> >>>> may depend on good communications between the IMC's.
> >>>>
> >>>> many thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Tony Gosling
> >>>> Bristol IMC
> >>>> http://bristol.indymedia.org/
> >>>> http://www.public-interest.co.uk/
> >>>> Telephone +44 117 944 6219
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> Imc-communication at lists.indymedia.org
> >>> http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-communication
> >>>
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IMSA 1995 - UIUC 2000 - Just Another Leftist Muppet - Ya Basta!
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