[Imc-tech] helping the Indymedia Network:
Sascha Meinrath
sascha at ucimc.org
Wed Apr 2 09:18:51 CST 2003
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Zachary C. Miller wrote:
> We'd need a better net connection.
Maybe we could offer to host if the Network paid for the connection? This
would make _a lot_ of things possible, and would benefit both th Global
Network and the UCIMC.
--Sascha
> Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Is there any interest in offering to help host some of the Global
> > Indymedia Network's "stuff" here locally? It sounds like our tech group
> > is probably one of the more advanced around and doing so would give it a
> > "reason to be"...
> >
> > Anyone interested?
> >
> > --Sascha
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 00:25:24 -0500
> > Cc: listwork at indymedia.org
> > To: imc-communication at indymedia.org
> > From: evan <evan at protest.net>
> > Subject: [Imc-communication] about spam on this list / sobre spam en esta lista
> >
> > Summary: Lots of mail server problems. Spam guards won't be
> > back for at least a week.
> >
> > Summario: Muchos problemas con la servidor de correos. No hay
> > spam bloqueos por de una semana.
> >
> > Espa=F1ol mas adelante:
> >
> > Sorry for not getting back to people. We've all been busy. Sarai, the =20=
> >
> > indymedia mailinglist server's fan broke several months ago. While the =20=
> >
> > fan got fixed, in the process some parts, we don't know which, =20
> > overheated and partially broke. This past week the problem got worse =20
> > and Sarai kept crashing. The techies in Philadelphia are good radicals =20=
> >
> > and don't have cars. Unfortunately Sarai was housed in a data center =20
> > many miles out in to the suburbs. Every time server crashed, which was =20=
> >
> > about every day, they would have to frantically call the few activists =20=
> >
> > who did have cars and beg a ride. Sarai has been moved to a different =20=
> >
> > facility in Philly which is accessible by bicycle and public =20
> > transportation. But that hasn't stopped it from crashing. We discovered =20=
> >
> > that if we turned of spam assassin the server didn't crash nearly as =20
> > often. The decision was made that it was better to have mailinglists =20
> > with spam than NO mail or mailinglists at all.
> >
> > That is why all the lists are getting so much spam, there is no spam =20
> > blocking on indymedia lists at the moment. It was this or a mail server =20=
> >
> > that was not running at all most of the time, corrupting mailinglists =20=
> >
> > and generally creating a bigger mess.
> >
> > At an emergency imc-tech/sysadmin meeting today the decision was made =20=
> >
> > to setup a completely new server and move the primary mail hosting to =20=
> >
> > it. We're trading the SF imc geeks sarai for the fridge, which i =20
> > believe is going to be named che, although i'm not sure. The fridge is =20=
> >
> > the size of a small minifridge. Because of this we're having a little =20=
> >
> > trouble finding a place to host it. I expect it will take at least a =20
> > week before we can transfer all the mail operations over to che which =20=
> >
> > will be probably find a home in San Francisco, Seattle, or New York.
> >
> > At the same meeting we discussed extending the irc network to provide =20=
> >
> > better reliablity.
> >
> > Hopefully listwork, the working group which manages the mail server, =20
> > will be able to send a general announcement to all lists explaining the =20=
> >
> > problem.
> >
> > Ingles mas arriba:
> > Che, no quiero escrita todo de explica una otra vez. Pero esta es una =20=
> >
> > sumario en castellano. Por la pasado semana hay una mont=F3n de =
> > problemas =20
> > con la servidor de listas y correos, sarai. Cada vez nosotros =20
> > comenzamos la programa de spam asasen (assassin) para bloqueos de la =20
> > spam la servidor rompa. Nosotros tenemos dos posibilidades no hay una =20=
> >
> > servidor de correos y listas por indymedia o una servidor con mucho =20
> > spam.
> >
> > En una reuni=F3n hoy de la grupo de cmi technicos y admins nosotros =20
> > hacemos la decisi=F3n para cambiar la listas y correos para una nuevo =20=
> >
> > servidor. Pienso la nombre de la nuevo servidor es Che. Esta servidor =20=
> >
> > es en san francisco ahora. Pensamos es mas de una semana de trabaja =20
> > antes la cambiar por esta nuevo servidor. En esta tiempo hay muchos =20
> > spam a todos la listos de indymedia. Lo siento. En la mismo reuni=F3n =20=
> >
> > fuimos hablar sobre una extensi=F3n de la red de servidores de irc por =20=
> >
> > indymedia tambi=E9n.
> >
> > in solidarity,
> > evan
> >
> > On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 02:55 AM, changsing wrote:
> >
> > > tony,
> > > in case you didn't notice, global lists are getting huge amounts of =20=
> >
> > > spam these days. maybe it's some sort of attack, maybe it's not. in =20=
> >
> > > any case, i assume it's very difficult for admins to keep up with it, =20=
> >
> > > since i'm sure all of us are very busy.
> > > if you're concerned about global lists, there are a few things you =20
> > > might want to consider:
> > > - use a more kind and cooperative attitude towards people you are =20
> > > supposed to work with
> > > - step up for list administration, and help them out
> > > - discuss with your local collective the proposal that imc-italy sent =20=
> >
> > > out to imc-process about how we use global lists
> > > thanx
> > > changsing
> > >
> > > Tony Gosling wrote:
> > >> Dear Anna,
> > >> Something that can be done immediately is for one of these three to =20=
> >
> > >> log
> > >> into the list admin section and find out what's going on. Is it that =20=
> >
> > >> non
> > >> members are able to post? Whatever it is it's their responsibility.
> > >> This is a global list and responsibility of the admins should reflect =
> > =20
> > >> that
> > >> whether paid or unpaid.
> > >> Just because we're volunteers doesn't mean global lists need to get =20=
> >
> > >> lunched
> > >> out.
> > >> We all make mistakes Anna and this is an attempt to rectify the =20
> > >> mistake not
> > >> blame anyone.
> > >> chill,
> > >> Tony Gosling
> > >> +44 117 944 6219
> > >> At 15:08 29/03/03 +0100, you wrote:
> > >>> whow.
> > >>> i think there are some people doing a ot of work for the global =20
> > >>> network, and i'm sure all of them would be glad about any kind of =20=
> >
> > >>> support. i know that about two of these three list admins and i =20
> > >>> assume it's true about the third person, too.
> > >>> if i was list admin i'd move imc-communication far down in my list =20=
> >
> > >>> of priorities right now.
> > >>>
> > >>> noone of us gets paid to do this, you know? i think an attitude like =
> > =20
> > >>> " tell them to get their act together" doesn't work for something =20=
> >
> > >>> like indymedia.
> > >> if
> > >>> you want something done that can be done by a lot of people, why =20
> > >>> don't you ask first whether there is a problem that you could help =20=
> >
> > >>> with? and ask yourself why you haven't helped so far?
> > >>>
> > >>> generally it helps to sit back, breath deep and think of something =20=
> >
> > >>> that
> > >> can be
> > >>> done without demanding it of other people in a tone like that.
> > >>> Anna
> > >>> imc germany/berlin
> > >>>
> > >>> Am Samstag, 29. M=E4rz 2003 13:47 schrieb Tony Gosling:
> > >>>
> > >>>> This list is being run by these three people
> > >>>>
> > >>>> dri at indymedia.org,
> > >>>> nobl0044 at tc.umn.edu and
> > >>>> evan at protest.net
> > >>>>
> > >>>> No communications just SPAM.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you are as annoyed as I am that they have made such a mess of it =
> > =20
> > >>>> please
> > >>>> could you email them and tell them to get their act together.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Maybe remind them that there is a global crisis - and war - on and =20=
> >
> > >>>> lives
> > >>>> may depend on good communications between the IMC's.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> many thanks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Tony Gosling
> > >>>> Bristol IMC
> > >>>> http://bristol.indymedia.org/
> > >>>> http://www.public-interest.co.uk/
> > >>>> Telephone +44 117 944 6219
> > >>>
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> > >>>
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