[Imc-tech] Re: [IMC-Process] Re: [Imc-info] clarification on another rumour please

[Zachary C. Miller]

There are a number of folks on our (UCIMC) server that are unable to
pay our suggested rate and are provided service for free or for
reduced costs. Everything UC-IMC does operates on a sliding scale
basis. We couldn't afford our network connection without the cost
sharing that we do for web services.

This fee sharing arrangement used to be a community service that I
personally offered, before the UC-IMC even existed, and I've
collectivized it through our IMC so that there is collective oversight
and backup administration and so IMC can help manage the funds through
fiscal sponsorship.

No one is making any profit on this, in fact we're still losing money
on it, as we always have, and I'm still personally paying the
difference out of pocket. If we ever did make more money than the cost
of our network connection we'd roll that money back into the
infrastructure to make it better for all users.

Shayne O'Neill wrote:
> 
> fyi
> 
> perth also hosts commumity projects (baxterwatch, anarcon etc) our rate of
> charge is no bux.
> 
> What we do believe is apropriate is that folk can pay us whatever they
> think its worth, if they want to. And yeah. the idea is those that can
> afford it pay for those that can't. if they want.
> 
> so far no one has paid.
> 
> And thats ok with us.
> 
> Shayne.
> 
> ------------------------------------
> "Must not Sleep! Must warn others!"
> -Aesop.
> Shayne O'Neill. Indymedia. Fun.
> http://www.perthimc.asn.au
> 
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> 
> > Hi Clara (et al.),
> >
> > Thanks for letting us know about this rumour.  The UCIMC does do Community
> > Web Hosting for a variety of different projects and groups (I believe
> > there are over 150 different pages we are currently hosting).
> >
> > Information about this initiative is available at:
> >
> > http://hosting.ucimc.org
> >
> > Community Web Hosting is offered on a sliding scale with the hope that
> > those that can afford to pay for services will do so to help subsidize
> > those who cannot otherwise afford webhosting.  Our process does indeed
> > allow us to charge for additional technical support -- however, over the
> > past two years that we've been running the service our tech team has been
> > volunteering its services and we have yet to bill anyone for the extra
> > help we've offered.
> >
> > The goal of the project is to have voluntary donations by those utilizing
> > the service make it self-sustaining (currently the initiative runs in the
> > red and only survives by the continued subsidization from a single donor).
> > The only IMC's we've asked for donations from are those who have
> > approached us to host their website on our server.
> >
> > Hope this helps clarify everything -- the hosting website has information
> > about the project philosophy, suggested donations, etc.
> >
> > Let me know if there are any further questions or concerns.
> >
> > In solidarity,
> >
> > --Sascha Meinrath
> > Urbana-Champaign IMC
> >
> > On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, clara wrote:
> >
> > > Dear volunteer from UC IMC,
> > >
> > > the question about money within Indymedia is an ongoing question, and
> > > therefore I and others would like clarification on yet another rumour:
> > >
> > > Is Urbana-Champaign IMC charging other IMCs for hosting and technical support?
> > >
> > > in solidarity
> > > clara
> >
> >
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