[Imc-tech] Re: [Imc-web] Deleted posts

[Zachary C. Miller]

I think we really need to have a face to face Web group meeting to
discuss this issue in more detail. 

Can we meet on Monday, Feb 7 at 7pm at the IMC? 

I spoke with Clint and I know he can make it then. I can make it then.

Clint Popetz wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 11:12:31AM -0600, Mike Lehman wrote:
> > Hi Clint,
> > I was the one who deleted the comment, which was made by "Jack Ryan" or 
> > whoever he was calling himself on that one. 
> 
> I'm sorry, but in truth, you have no knowledge of who made that post.
> This is all conjecture.  I respect the fact that you spend a lot of
> time monitoring the newswire, but that doesn't give you powers of
> divination.
> 
> > Recently, Steering authorized completely removing his postings from 
> > public view, since his sole remaining purpose here was to get his crap 
> > hidden and then bitch some more about "censorship." 
> 
> How can steering authorize removing postings from a single person
> when we have no reliable way of identifying people on the newswire?
> 
> > Due to technical issues with Dada, hidden from the public in Dada
> > does not always act promptly or assuredly with all browsers, leaving
> > stuff that is justifiably hidden visible. So stuff of his tends to
> > get deleted when there is certainty that it is his. 
> 
> There is never certainty that a posting belongs to anyone with this
> software.
> 
> > We haven't heard a chorus of new posters complaining about being hidden 
> > or deleted, so I think my accuracy has been close to 100% 
> 
> That seems like a shaky conclusion.  How many people post and then
> come back to make sure there post is visible days later?  Of those
> that do, how many complain?
> 
> > I think your post actually stands very well on its own, even without
> > the context of the original troll that prompted it. 
> 
> It made more sense with the original post.
> 
> And all of this misses the point.  Deleting someones posts because of
> who they are and not because of their content seems out of line with
> our philosophy.  I'm here right now saying "this post that was deleted
> had worth" and you're saying "it was a troll" and I think that this
> reveals that _everyone_ has different standards as to what should be
> on the newswire, and that's why I favor having multiple people approve
> hiding posts.
> 
> 			-Clint
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