[IMC-Tech] Indymedia Hosting Cooperative:

David Gehrig gehrigspamtrap at gmail.com
Mon Nov 27 12:31:53 CST 2006 

I should also add that, like Sascha, I'm not the guy to bring this
proposal forward.

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On 11/27/06, Matthew Isaacs <isaacsm at cuwireless.net> wrote:
>
> We would also need some info on what they host.  While we recently
> upgraded our servers, depending on the size/requirements of the sites
> they host, we could quickly tax our servers.
>
> That said though, I think its worth looking into.  We at least have a
> stable location with an infrastructure in place.
>
> David Gehrig wrote:
> > I agree that we should definitely let people know what we've got, and
> > that we're willing to put it to use for the Indymedia network.  But it
> > would be helpful if we had some figures -- what is the total linefeed
> > bandwidth like, that sort of thing.
> >
> > On 11/24/06, dan blah <dan.blah at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 11/23/06, Sascha Meinrath <sascha at ucimc.org> wrote:
> >> > FYI:  Hi all, this proposal just came across the global finance
> >> working group.
> >> > Call me crazy, but isn't this something where the
> >> UCIMC/Acorn/Chambana.net
> >> > infrastructure would be _insanely_ useful?  My main concern would
> >> be that we'd
> >> > need more (and more stable) bandwidth than we currently have, but
> >> this seems
> >> > like a natural fit.  On the other hand, there are folks who dislike
> >> the UCIMC
> >> > with wild abandon -- but I wonder if we shouldn't pitch the idea
> >> anyway?
> >> >
> >> > What do folks think?
> >> >
> >> ya i don't really see why we couldn't host these sites.  i have
> >> already recently got some informal agreements made to improve our
> >> connection speed and stability.  can you put out a notice that we
> >> have/will have, and can easily have the resources for this w/o having
> >> to spend that much money.  we also have no problem giving other
> >> qualified indymedia admins access.
> >> > --Sascha
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:56:44 -0300
> >> > From: <argentina at indymedia.org>
> >> > Subject: [IMC-Finance] FUNDING PROPOSAL: To help start a San Francisco
> >> >         based   hosting cooperative
> >> > To: <imc-finance at lists.indymedia.org>
> >> >
> >> > [Eng]
> >> > November 20, 2006 by IMCs Hosted on Linefeed servers.
> >> > DEADLINE: December 1, 2006
> >> >
> >> > SHORT INTRODUCTION.
> >> > This is a funding proposal to help start a San Francisco based hosting
> >> > cooperative which will be used largely to host Indymedia websites [1].
> >> > (See list below)
> >> >
> >> > SUMMARY.
> >> > For over six years, volunteers in San Francisco (with sysadmin
> >> volunteers
> >> > from Latin America, Europe and the Middle East) have operated and
> >> maintained
> >> > web [1][2] and database servers [3] that are used to host Indymedia
> >> > websites. For all that time, we have paid out-of-pocket for
> >> everything.
> >> > In the next month, the cooperative we worked in to make this happen is
> >> > closing down. We are organizing a new cooperative so that we don't
> >> have
> >> > downtime but we need money to get it started.
> >> >
> >> > DETAILS.
> >> > Around Christmas, we expect the bandwidth cooperative we work with
> >> > (California Community Colocation Project)[4] to "go dark" and the
> >> servers
> >> > will go offline. There is a lot of momentum right now to create a
> >> > replacement organization that can continue providing bandwidth at
> >> collective
> >> > prices. We have already met a couple times and we're actively
> >> moving the
> >> > project forward.
> >> >
> >> > This incurs a lot of costs, however. Aside from replacing parts on the
> >> > machines as we move them, we also have to sign a bandwidth contract
> >> and
> >> > begin paying on that immediately. If we had a financial cushion, we
> >> would
> >> > have the time to finish getting ourselves organized and spread the
> >> costs out
> >> > over many collective members. The current plan is that collective
> >> members
> >> > will front all these costs from their own pockets but its unclear
> >> if we're
> >> > financially solvent doing it that way.
> >> >
> >> > We would like $3,000.00 USD (Three thousands dollars) from the
> >> global fund
> >> > to provide a basic bank account for us and so we can begin making
> >> > arrangements for bandwidth. The money would be sent to San Francisco
> >> > Community Colocation Project, a fiscally-sponsored non-profit entity.
> >> >
> >> > Investing in the people who have proven themselves to be in this
> >> for the
> >> > long haul and investing in a project which can provide sustainable
> >> bandwidth
> >> > for Indymedia are both very important. Especially in a time of
> >> crisis like
> >> > this (with Ahimsa leaving soon), we need to have reliable and
> >> collectively
> >> > managed bandwidth resources.
> >> >
> >> > DEADLINE.
> >> > This is an emergency situation that is directly facing many
> >> Independent
> >> > Media Centers and the sooner it can be solved, the better.
> >> > Our externally-imposed [4] deadline is sometime around Christmas
> >> Day and so
> >> > we need to be setup and moved as soon as possible. So, we have set a
> >> > deadline of December 1, 2006.
> >> >
> >> > Mat from Indymedia Argentina.
> >> > In name of the Indymedia Collectives that have their Indymedia
> >> websites
> >> > hosted at Linefeed servers on San Francisco.
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/StrayInfo
> >> > [2] https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/BlackCatInfo
> >> > [3] https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/HugoInfo
> >> > [4] http://www.communitycolo.net
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > List of Independent Media Centers hosted in the Linefeed servers.
> >> >
> >> > Arizona - http://arizona.indymedia.org
> >> > Argentina - http://argentina.indymedia.org
> >> > Chile - http://chile.indymedia.org
> >> > Germany mirror - http://de.indymedia.org
> >> > Hawaii - http://hawaii.indymedia.org
> >> > Houston - http://houston.indymedia.org
> >> > Istanbul ? Turkey - http://istanbul.indymedia.org
> >> > Jerusalem ? Palestine - http://palestine.indymedia.org
> >> > Maritimes - http://maritimes.indymedia.org
> >> > Peru - http://peru.indymedia.org
> >> > QC - http://qc.indymedia.org
> >> > Rosario - http://rosario.indymedia.org
> >> > San Francisco - http://sf.indymedia.org
> >> > Santiago de Chile - http://santiago.indymedia.org
> >> > SF-Active info site - http://sfactive.indymedia.org
> >> > South Africa - http://southafrica.indymedia.org
> >> > Thunderbay - http://thunderbay.indymedia.org
> >> > Utah - http://utah.indymedia.org
> >> > Worcester - http://worcester.indymedia.org
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Sascha Meinrath
> >> > Executive Director  *  Principal          *  President
> >> > CUWiN              *** The Ethos Group   *** Acorn Active Media
> >> > CUWiN.net           *  EthosWireless.com  *  AcornActiveMedia.com
> >> >
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