[UCIMC-Tech] [Imc-bookkeeper] the Dell printer

[Mike Lehman]

Leon,
Yes, set the Dell aside for recycling in the janitor room.
Mike Lehman

On 4/19/2011 12:11 PM, leon mcgee wrote:
> The original message was thrown left field. Tech does not want the 
> printer, so is it a go to get rid of the dell printer?
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net 
> <mailto:rebelmike at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>     Leon,
>     The answer is that yes, Tech is its own entity. That's the meaning
>     of autonomy. Tech sets its policies based on the resources
>     available to it, the time available and the priorities it needs to
>     set to accomplish the mission-critical parts of its work.
>
>     True, we need to be better about communicating this to each other.
>     Brian probably should've noted that the old CRT monitor (I think
>     that's what we're talking about, right?)  should go to the
>     recycling pile. Not a big deal, so we shouldn't make a big deal of
>     it. I think we have an understanding of the concerns now and have
>     a proposed solution. Recycling is one more thing that Tech
>     shouldn't be burdened with. Agreed that an opportunity was missed
>     to come up with a solution, but we have it now.
>
>     If we need an example to understand, here's one. We all know about
>     the endless stream of requests Finance gets. A lot of this ends up
>     being someone supposing Finance should do things we don't. For
>     instance, fundraising or knowing info the working group knows but
>     doesn't bother communicating to Finance. Finance doesn't do
>     fundraising, per se, but does support fundraising.
>
>     Finance also can't read the minds of people. People wonder why we
>     don't have what they think we should, like complete record of
>     donations and transactions. We have the funds and can account for
>     them to the best of our ability, but we often don't have the other
>     info UNLESS working groups take the necessary action of following
>     their funds and transactions regularly and crosschecking the
>     monthly reports. Heck, it goes on for years and then people wonder
>     why Finance doesn't have every cent broken down the way they want
>     it when they finally get around to checking on this?
>
>     Like everything else at the IMC, Finance and Tech rely on a
>     cooperative effort with other elements of the IMC and with each
>     other to make things work. If that cooperation and coordination
>     doesn't happen we can't really force people to do what someone
>     believes they should have done first, although we usually figure
>     it out.
>
>     Please everyone, be patient with each other and don't assume what
>     the other is supposed to be doing is what you think they should be
>     doing. Talk with each other and we'll figure this out.
>     Mike Lehman
>
>
>     On 4/15/2011 12:19 PM, leon mcgee wrote:
>>     Sorry I was just following what someone told me to do. And I did.
>>     I told Brian where they came from and he said nothing. So what am
>>     I suppose to do? And I am confused, are you with the IMC or your
>>     own entity? Is it working groups and IMC or is it the working
>>     groups are the IMC? Meaning if working groups are there own
>>     entity, then they should be treated like that.
>>
>>
>>     Never the less this to me is the most out of ordered place. I
>>     don't understand. If the IMC (like most building should), has its
>>     own tech crew from the beginning then why is there a problem? And
>>     if working groups ie tech is not technically IMC tech support
>>     then we need to hire are own. Cause when something needs fixing,
>>     sometimes wait for tech is not OK.
>>
>>     On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Chris Ritzo
>>     <chris.ritzo at gmail.com <mailto:chris.ritzo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Mike:
>>         My mistake about saying "finance"- I agree that this was
>>         confusing. Brian noticed that the monitor had been replaced,
>>         which isn't the same thing.
>>
>>         Leon:
>>         I agree, it was placed by "Tech" and is IMC property. That
>>         doesn't mean you can just move it somewhere without asking
>>         first, and/or communicating about it.
>>
>>         A more general inter-group solution is ideal. There will
>>         always be stuff that breaks and need to be recycled or trashed.
>>
>>         Tech donations have always been a staple of the IMC- using
>>         stuff that's free or fixing what's broken. Tech just doesn't
>>         have the capacity to do this for every working group anymore.
>>         We will still maintain what we've put in place- the public
>>         computer lab & machines people use. But groups should really
>>         start thinking about building technology costs into grant
>>         proposals and budgets.
>>
>>         If there are any tech donations that people want to make,
>>         please direct them to me or to Brian before accepting
>>         anything. I realize that sometimes people just "drop stuff
>>         off", and we can't stop that. Honestly, I think we have an
>>         established donation pipeline from Parkland, so we really
>>         don't need to accept any tech donations right now, outside of
>>         special needs- for instance - a brand new, network laser
>>         printer might be nice..
>>
>>         Chris
>>
>>
>>         On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mike Lehman
>>         <rebelmike at earthlink.net <mailto:rebelmike at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>>
>>             Chris,
>>             I agree, absolutely not a Tech responsibility, but it is
>>             a general IMC need.
>>
>>             A spot for IMC electronics recycling is a great idea. I
>>             hesitate to use Room 26, because it will tend to fill
>>             before something's done about it.
>>             BT,DT :-)
>>
>>             Maybe it would be best to hold this sort of stuff in
>>             either the boiler room or the janitor room, as we already
>>             hold bulbs for recycling there? That way it won't be
>>             totally out of sight, out of mine and will remind us that
>>             it needs to go when a critical mass is reached and an
>>             event is upcoming.
>>
>>             Leon,
>>             I know this stuff will sort of be in the way once there's
>>             very much accumulated, but that's the point -- to remind
>>             us it needs to leave then. Does this sound like it can
>>             work? Maybe stack it under the duct area at the north end
>>             of the janitor room?
>>
>>             Then the designated spot for electronic recycling could
>>             be by the door to the janitor room, which would also be
>>             less in the way in the hall that at Room 26. And since
>>             you're in there almost daily, it could be moved into the
>>             janitor room spot to await the next recycling run.
>>             Mike
>>
>>
>>             On 4/15/2011 10:17 AM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
>>>             Tech is not interested in the printer. Also, Brian
>>>             informed me that Finance replaced the program director's
>>>             monitor and that the old CRT was taken to the Makerspace
>>>             without informing us. I've asked Brian to bring it back
>>>             upstairs.
>>>
>>>             Tech will help other groups find appropriate means of
>>>             recycling non-functioning, or upgraded equipment. A
>>>             prime example is when Jay Schubert & I hauled all the
>>>             old crap out of room 26 when there was a recycling event
>>>             on campus.
>>>
>>>             What we won't do is be every group's storage dumping
>>>             ground for equipment you feel isn't working or needs
>>>             replaced. Taking the monitor to Makerspace without
>>>             telling anyone is a good example of this. This type of
>>>             thing can easily take over Tech's time. Time we could be
>>>             spending working on the really awesome stuff that is
>>>             getting mentioned by our board members at a national
>>>             level. We are not the IMC's electronics recycler.
>>>
>>>             I'd like to suggest that the finance sub-group which
>>>             deals with building space issues designate a place for
>>>             non-functioning computer equipment that needs to be
>>>             recycled by all working groups and issue communications
>>>             about that so that folks know what to do with it. Maybe
>>>             that's room 26. When a recycling opportunity presents
>>>             itself, tech will pitch in to help, but it should
>>>             probably be coordinated with the building manager.
>>>
>>>             Chris
>>>
>>>             On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Mike Lehman
>>>             <rebelmike at earthlink.net
>>>             <mailto:rebelmike at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                 I kind of think it's just good for a boat anchor --
>>>                 and the IMC doesn't own a boat, yet.
>>>
>>>                 I'm cc-ing this to Tech in case they have an
>>>                 interest in it (or Makerspace maybe?) for parts. etc.
>>>
>>>                 Otherwise, recycle it once Tech has had a chance to
>>>                 weigh in.
>>>                 Mike
>>>
>>>                 On 4/15/2011 9:53 AM, leon mcgee wrote:
>>>>                 Kristina had brought this up to me, and I was
>>>>                 wondering the same thing, that if the dell printer
>>>>                 is no longer staying with us, do we recycle it,
>>>>                 give to tech to use for parts, have it star in
>>>>                 Office Space 2 Revenge of The Printer?
>>>>                 --
>>>

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