[UCIMC-Tech] Spam Mass Deletion Disabled
Mike Lehman
rebelmike at earthlink.net
Sat Dec 10 08:32:25 CST 2011
OK, now I see them, there's a time lag in the system now after posting.
That may result it the occasional double post as people won't see the
post immediately after posting as has been the case.
So, no need to worry that anonymous posting is down, just slightly delayed.
Mike
On 12/10/2011 8:29 AM, Mike Lehman wrote:
> Chris,
> I noticed this morning that anonymous comments aren't working. I'm
> pretty sure that they were working after you made the adjustments
> yesterday, so not sure if something else was changed or ?
> Mike
>
> On 12/9/2011 12:43 PM, Mike Lehman wrote:
>> Chris,
>> Thanks for the update. Looks like things are OK now, but overnight is
>> the problem time for spam so we'll see. Yeah, if the monthly limit is
>> 1,000 spams, there's no way to keep up with crap we attract. Not sure
>> how effective Mollom is as far as using the reporting feature, which
>> I typically do, because I see pretty much the same stuff get through
>> it so doesn't appear to learn from the resources expended to do that.
>>
>> Yeah, quite familiar with the balance between anonymous posting and
>> spam tolerance. We're stuck with some form of anonymous posting as an
>> IMC -- unless we no longer desire to keep that commitment. Short of
>> dropping that, there are several policy changes that could help with
>> that I could suggest, for instance a blog separate from the
>> Newswire's so that Local Yokel can chat with the faux-cop troll at
>> his leisure, for instance, but no one seems much interested in the
>> problems of web editing. Which is not really Tech's responsibility,
>> but which no doubt creates issues that require Tech resources to
>> implement.
>>
>> I'd be glad to drop this baby in someone else's lap, but am sticking
>> with it for now in the interests of consistency. Eventually, I grow
>> weary...
>> And the website will be virtually useless in short order without
>> human intervention.
>> Mike
>>
>> On 12/9/2011 10:23 AM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> I just made an adjustment to the comment form, enabling text
>>> analysis for spam protection rather than the captcha. One of the
>>> issues that's certainly causing some spam is that the service we're
>>> using (http://www.mollom.com) is free up to a certain number of
>>> legit posts and spam blocks. The IMC site is regularly going over
>>> that limit, so I imagine what's happening is that we hit the limit
>>> and then spam gets through. To improve this, the IMC can consider
>>> paying for the Mollom Plus service, which is 30 EUR/month for up to
>>> 1000 legit posts per day and up to 1000 correct captchas per day. It
>>> also offers better performance.
>>>
>>> Anyone else on the tech list have ideas about better spam blocking
>>> on a Drupal site?
>>>
>>> Beyond that, monitoring spam posts is just a fact of life of sites
>>> like ours where open & anonymous posts are allowed. Spam monitoring
>>> in general is a full time job that people actually get paid to do-
>>> part of a larger conversation I'm trying to open in our circles
>>> about the actual costs of tech infrastructure and support which
>>> needs to be addressed. A volunteer working group or volunteer web
>>> editors just don't have the capacity or interest in becoming spam
>>> monitors. I think this every time I log into one of our Mailman
>>> lists to clean out spam.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'll bring this up at our next board meeting, but if you
>>> could let me know if the above change has an effect on spam comments
>>> that would be awesome.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net
>>> <mailto:rebelmike at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The website was back up and mass delete is working again this
>>> morning, so I cleaned up 500+ pieces of spam that arrived last night
>>>
>>> Makes me wonder...Is there anyway that a "duplicate post" or
>>> other such dialogue that interrupted the posting process could
>>> be inserted if the title is the same to prevent such abuse? If
>>> N=>2, it would throw a wrench in the automated process used
>>> (posts were coming in at around 10/minute at its height) since I
>>> doubt a human was doing it that rapidly, without being too
>>> obtrusive to legitimate posting?
>>>
>>> Anyway, something like that is what I want for Xmas...or maybe
>>> someone else that pays enough attention to the website to help
>>> clean up the crap from time to time.
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/9/2011 12:22 AM, Mike Lehman wrote:
>>>
>>> The spammers are busy tonight. I deleted a hundred or so
>>> earlier with the mass delete option box checked.
>>>
>>> Came back and there's lots more. This time, I get an error
>>> messages when trying to do the same thing:
>>> "An illegal choice has been detected. Please contact the
>>> site administrator."
>>>
>>> Then the server crashed -- or something. Connection is
>>> timing out. Probably sack time, so if anyone gets the chance
>>> to clean things up once it's working, indulge yourself.
>>> Mike
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