[UCIMC-Tech] [Imc-bookkeeper] i have to ask

Tue Feb 15 18:19:52 CST 2011

thanks chris

a few things :

after we  got our heads around financials from last year, *we approved a
contract for the GEO printer/copier at finance*.  our only questions were:
can we network it?  does it print and not just copy?

i thought we already had the printer/copier at the IMC - is this not true?

*who can a) get the GEO printer/copier b) set up the contract and have them
invoice the IMC and c) network the bugger so we can use it from multiple
locations?*

what is missing now is not money or decisions but someone to implement a
decision.

also, is anyone looking at cost of servicing the brother?  i don't think we
need to buy a new printer (although having some donated backups is great),
we need to fix the one that we have unless it is more expensive than buying
new.

OJC has a totally functional laser jet i am close to getting donated.

- danielle

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Chris Ritzo <chris.ritzo at gmail.com> wrote:

> On behalf of Tech, I just wanted to enter this conversation with a
> voice of support for Finance. I can't make it to the meeting on
> Thursday at 4:30, but wanted to voice support from tech. Brian and I
> will continue to support the installation and configuration of current
> or future printers.
>
> One option that might help temporarily is to clean the print heads.
> This may stop jamming temporarily. The manual for the Brother printer
> is in the right-hand drawer of the Finance desk which details the
> cleaning procedure. This type of routine maintenance is something the
> working group should handle (unless there's some sort of maintenance
> contract, like is being discussed for a new printer).
>
> If Finance is still interested in the printer that the GEO was
> offering, Brian's contact was Stephanie Seawell at the GEO.
> <stephseawell at gmail.com>. The Ikon representative for a service
> contract for the GEO printer/copier is Jeremy Bennett
> <jerbennett at ikon.com>.  Brian can provide details about appropriate
> page counts if this is the direction Finance decides to go.
>
> As always, if working groups have support requests, please email the
> Tech Listserv so we both have a record of the request and can respond
> in a timely manner. imc-tech at lists.chambana.net
>
> Thanks for doing what you do, Finance! Please let us know what you
> decide to do about the printer(s) and where you need Tech's
> assistance.
>
> - Chris R.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jan & Durl Kruse <jandurl at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > Just asking, has anyone looked at the 2011 budget to see if monies are
> > available for this.  It's only February and I see  under Office &
> Business
> > Expenses  $1000 budgeted for media equipment, $1000 for computer
> equipment,
> > and $1250 for photocopier.  Can these be modified to allow $300-$500 to
> be
> > placed in line 2104 office equipment.  Maybe we need to just slightly
> modify
> > and prioritize our office needs in the budget.  There's money in the
> budget,
> > it's just how you want to spend it.  Of course, once its gone, its gone,
> but
> > that's not the case now.
> > Durl
> > On Feb 14, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Isak Griffiths wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm....
> > I don't think I've expressed either apathy or anger about finance. A
> little
> > confusion sometimes, but seeing as not everything here is self-evident
> and
> > self-explanatory I think that's fair.
> > I also think it is fair to be frustrated when I can't print out a
> membership
> > form when we are out and someone is ready to write a check for $50. (Yes,
> > that has happened, and not everyone will submit a check with a makeshift
> > membership form.)
> > An appeal to the membership for a printer? Sounds like a good idea. But I
> > suggest it come from a long-standing volunteer and not an americorps
> members
> > whose name no one knows. But if that's going to happen, I'd suggest a
> VERY
> > short email (to encourage reading) that includes two or three key items
> that
> > are strongly needed.
> > Just my two cents.
> > Isak
> > ____________________________
> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Isak,
> >> There's an easy answer to this. Global Funds are segregated from IMC
> >> funds, so the fact that we have $2000 to send to a global Indymedia
> project
> >> unfortunately doesn't mean we have a penny for printers.
> >>
> >> And please don't take this personally, as your question and concern is a
> >> common one. In fact, it was exactly the problem I was referring to last
> >> night. Finance functions because we spend a lot of time saying no to
> >> perfectly reasonable requests, because there have been no funds raised
> to
> >> fund a printer purchase.
> >>
> >> And it's at the root of people displaying first apathy and in some cases
> >> hostility about what Finance does. It's easy for them to stay angry if
> they
> >> don't want to learn more about why Finance does what it does. They just
> want
> >> their problem fixed and because there is money around, they see Finance
> as
> >> the heavy, since we have to explain our refusal to meet their perfectly
> >> reasonable request.
> >>
> >> Repeat as necessary over 5 to 6 years. Do little fundraising for the IMC
> >> as a whole. Presume they've done their part. Move on to complaining
> about
> >> how Finance is obstructing their big plans because they won't cooperate
> with
> >> their perfectly reasonable request -- reasonable at least until the
> context
> >> within which a reasonable request is made.
> >>
> >> If Finance hadn't said no to so many people over the last 5 years,
> >> everyone would be happy now? Not likely, as we would have closed the
> doors
> >> by now.
> >>
> >> But we still need a printer. Has anyone tried an appeal on the IMC list
> >> for a working printer? Even if we come up with funds for a new one after
> the
> >> budget is resolved, it would be good to have a back-up anyway. Maybe
> this
> >> could tide us over though?
> >> Mike Lehman
> >>
> >> On 2/14/2011 11:08 AM, Isak Griffiths wrote:
> >>
> >> If we have $2000 to send to San Francisco, what will it take to get $200
> >> for a printer that works here? Isak
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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