[UCIMC-Tech] [Imc-bookkeeper] i have to ask

Mike Lehman rebelmike at earthlink.net
Thu Feb 17 12:54:38 CST 2011 

Brian,
Thanks!
Mike

On 2/17/2011 11:31 AM, Brian Duggan wrote:
> Mike, the copier on the South ramp is a donation from Intel that we took
> before I understood anything about copiers. It was obsolete and hopeless
> when we accepted it since no one would sell us a service contract on it.
> Leon&  crew moved it there to clear out the old AmeriCorps office.
>
> I just CCed finance and tech on our acceptance of GEO's copier donation.
> I will attend the Finance meeting tonight to discuss how we will work
> with IKON to execute our service contract.
>
> Brian
>
> On 2/16/11 3:12 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
>> Brian can answer your question definitively Mike, but I think that the
>> printer on the south ramp is the old one that used to be downstairs in
>> the hallway outside the family room.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Danielle Chynoweth<chyn at ojctech.com>  wrote:
>>> Also, OJC is considering donating a working laser printer to the IMC at
>>> their Friday staff meeting.  It has been super reliable and can be
>>> networked. - D
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Mike Lehman<rebelmike at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I may be wrong, but IIRC isn't the printer sitting on the south ramp the
>>>> one from GEO?
>>>> At least I thought we'd already received it and that one looks like the
>>>> one that was at GEO.
>>>>
>>>> The issue that was hanging was whether or not that printer could be
>>>> networked or not?
>>>>
>>>> So if it is the GEO printer and we can network it, then we're good. If
>>>> not, then we're back to square one.
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On 2/16/2011 1:44 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
>>>>> I've asked that Brian inquire into the GEO printer and the contract
>>>>> with IKON, assuming the printer is still available.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian, could you inform the Bookkeeper list with an update when you
>>>>> hear back from GEO?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks. -Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Danielle Chynoweth<chyn at ojctech.com>
>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>> thanks chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a few things :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> after we  got our heads around financials from last year, we approved a
>>>>>> contract for the GEO printer/copier at finance.  our only questions
>>>>>> were:
>>>>>> can we network it?  does it print and not just copy?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i thought we already had the printer/copier at the IMC - is this not
>>>>>> true?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> who can a) get the GEO printer/copier b) set up the contract and have
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> invoice the IMC and c) network the bugger so we can use it from multiple
>>>>>> locations?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what is missing now is not money or decisions but someone to implement a
>>>>>> decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> also, is anyone looking at cost of servicing the brother?  i don't think
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> need to buy a new printer (although having some donated backups is
>>>>>> great),
>>>>>> we need to fix the one that we have unless it is more expensive than
>>>>>> buying
>>>>>> new.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OJC has a totally functional laser jet i am close to getting donated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - danielle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Chris Ritzo<chris.ritzo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>> On behalf of Tech, I just wanted to enter this conversation with a
>>>>>>> voice of support for Finance. I can't make it to the meeting on
>>>>>>> Thursday at 4:30, but wanted to voice support from tech. Brian and I
>>>>>>> will continue to support the installation and configuration of current
>>>>>>> or future printers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One option that might help temporarily is to clean the print heads.
>>>>>>> This may stop jamming temporarily. The manual for the Brother printer
>>>>>>> is in the right-hand drawer of the Finance desk which details the
>>>>>>> cleaning procedure. This type of routine maintenance is something the
>>>>>>> working group should handle (unless there's some sort of maintenance
>>>>>>> contract, like is being discussed for a new printer).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If Finance is still interested in the printer that the GEO was
>>>>>>> offering, Brian's contact was Stephanie Seawell at the GEO.
>>>>>>> <stephseawell at gmail.com>. The Ikon representative for a service
>>>>>>> contract for the GEO printer/copier is Jeremy Bennett
>>>>>>> <jerbennett at ikon.com>.  Brian can provide details about appropriate
>>>>>>> page counts if this is the direction Finance decides to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As always, if working groups have support requests, please email the
>>>>>>> Tech Listserv so we both have a record of the request and can respond
>>>>>>> in a timely manner. imc-tech at lists.chambana.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for doing what you do, Finance! Please let us know what you
>>>>>>> decide to do about the printer(s) and where you need Tech's
>>>>>>> assistance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Chris R.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jan&   Durl Kruse<jandurl at comcast.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Just asking, has anyone looked at the 2011 budget to see if monies are
>>>>>>>> available for this.  It's only February and I see  under Office&
>>>>>>>> Business
>>>>>>>> Expenses  $1000 budgeted for media equipment, $1000 for computer
>>>>>>>> equipment,
>>>>>>>> and $1250 for photocopier.  Can these be modified to allow $300-$500
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> placed in line 2104 office equipment.  Maybe we need to just slightly
>>>>>>>> modify
>>>>>>>> and prioritize our office needs in the budget.  There's money in the
>>>>>>>> budget,
>>>>>>>> it's just how you want to spend it.  Of course, once its gone, its
>>>>>>>> gone,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> that's not the case now.
>>>>>>>> Durl
>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Isak Griffiths wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmmm....
>>>>>>>> I don't think I've expressed either apathy or anger about finance. A
>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>> confusion sometimes, but seeing as not everything here is self-evident
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> self-explanatory I think that's fair.
>>>>>>>> I also think it is fair to be frustrated when I can't print out a
>>>>>>>> membership
>>>>>>>> form when we are out and someone is ready to write a check for $50.
>>>>>>>> (Yes,
>>>>>>>> that has happened, and not everyone will submit a check with a
>>>>>>>> makeshift
>>>>>>>> membership form.)
>>>>>>>> An appeal to the membership for a printer? Sounds like a good idea.
>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> suggest it come from a long-standing volunteer and not an americorps
>>>>>>>> members
>>>>>>>> whose name no one knows. But if that's going to happen, I'd suggest a
>>>>>>>> VERY
>>>>>>>> short email (to encourage reading) that includes two or three key
>>>>>>>> items
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> are strongly needed.
>>>>>>>> Just my two cents.
>>>>>>>> Isak
>>>>>>>> ____________________________
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Mike Lehman<rebelmike at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Isak,
>>>>>>>>> There's an easy answer to this. Global Funds are segregated from IMC
>>>>>>>>> funds, so the fact that we have $2000 to send to a global Indymedia
>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>> unfortunately doesn't mean we have a penny for printers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And please don't take this personally, as your question and concern
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> common one. In fact, it was exactly the problem I was referring to
>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>> night. Finance functions because we spend a lot of time saying no to
>>>>>>>>> perfectly reasonable requests, because there have been no funds
>>>>>>>>> raised
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> fund a printer purchase.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And it's at the root of people displaying first apathy and in some
>>>>>>>>> cases
>>>>>>>>> hostility about what Finance does. It's easy for them to stay angry
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> don't want to learn more about why Finance does what it does. They
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>> their problem fixed and because there is money around, they see
>>>>>>>>> Finance
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> the heavy, since we have to explain our refusal to meet their
>>>>>>>>> perfectly
>>>>>>>>> reasonable request.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Repeat as necessary over 5 to 6 years. Do little fundraising for the
>>>>>>>>> IMC
>>>>>>>>> as a whole. Presume they've done their part. Move on to complaining
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> how Finance is obstructing their big plans because they won't
>>>>>>>>> cooperate
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> their perfectly reasonable request -- reasonable at least until the
>>>>>>>>> context
>>>>>>>>> within which a reasonable request is made.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If Finance hadn't said no to so many people over the last 5 years,
>>>>>>>>> everyone would be happy now? Not likely, as we would have closed the
>>>>>>>>> doors
>>>>>>>>> by now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But we still need a printer. Has anyone tried an appeal on the IMC
>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>> for a working printer? Even if we come up with funds for a new one
>>>>>>>>> after the
>>>>>>>>> budget is resolved, it would be good to have a back-up anyway. Maybe
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> could tide us over though?
>>>>>>>>> Mike Lehman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/14/2011 11:08 AM, Isak Griffiths wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If we have $2000 to send to San Francisco, what will it take to get
>>>>>>>>> $200
>>>>>>>>> for a printer that works here? Isak
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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