[UCIMC-Tech] [Imc-bookkeeper] i have to ask

Brian Duggan bcdugga at gmail.com
Thu Feb 17 11:31:37 CST 2011 

Mike, the copier on the South ramp is a donation from Intel that we took
before I understood anything about copiers. It was obsolete and hopeless
when we accepted it since no one would sell us a service contract on it.
Leon & crew moved it there to clear out the old AmeriCorps office.

I just CCed finance and tech on our acceptance of GEO's copier donation.
I will attend the Finance meeting tonight to discuss how we will work
with IKON to execute our service contract.

Brian

On 2/16/11 3:12 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
> Brian can answer your question definitively Mike, but I think that the
> printer on the south ramp is the old one that used to be downstairs in
> the hallway outside the family room.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Danielle Chynoweth <chyn at ojctech.com> wrote:
>> Also, OJC is considering donating a working laser printer to the IMC at
>> their Friday staff meeting.  It has been super reliable and can be
>> networked. - D
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I may be wrong, but IIRC isn't the printer sitting on the south ramp the
>>> one from GEO?
>>> At least I thought we'd already received it and that one looks like the
>>> one that was at GEO.
>>>
>>> The issue that was hanging was whether or not that printer could be
>>> networked or not?
>>>
>>> So if it is the GEO printer and we can network it, then we're good. If
>>> not, then we're back to square one.
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On 2/16/2011 1:44 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've asked that Brian inquire into the GEO printer and the contract
>>>> with IKON, assuming the printer is still available.
>>>>
>>>> Brian, could you inform the Bookkeeper list with an update when you
>>>> hear back from GEO?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. -Chris
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Danielle Chynoweth<chyn at ojctech.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks chris
>>>>>
>>>>> a few things :
>>>>>
>>>>> after we  got our heads around financials from last year, we approved a
>>>>> contract for the GEO printer/copier at finance.  our only questions
>>>>> were:
>>>>> can we network it?  does it print and not just copy?
>>>>>
>>>>> i thought we already had the printer/copier at the IMC - is this not
>>>>> true?
>>>>>
>>>>> who can a) get the GEO printer/copier b) set up the contract and have
>>>>> them
>>>>> invoice the IMC and c) network the bugger so we can use it from multiple
>>>>> locations?
>>>>>
>>>>> what is missing now is not money or decisions but someone to implement a
>>>>> decision.
>>>>>
>>>>> also, is anyone looking at cost of servicing the brother?  i don't think
>>>>> we
>>>>> need to buy a new printer (although having some donated backups is
>>>>> great),
>>>>> we need to fix the one that we have unless it is more expensive than
>>>>> buying
>>>>> new.
>>>>>
>>>>> OJC has a totally functional laser jet i am close to getting donated.
>>>>>
>>>>> - danielle
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Chris Ritzo<chris.ritzo at gmail.com>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On behalf of Tech, I just wanted to enter this conversation with a
>>>>>> voice of support for Finance. I can't make it to the meeting on
>>>>>> Thursday at 4:30, but wanted to voice support from tech. Brian and I
>>>>>> will continue to support the installation and configuration of current
>>>>>> or future printers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One option that might help temporarily is to clean the print heads.
>>>>>> This may stop jamming temporarily. The manual for the Brother printer
>>>>>> is in the right-hand drawer of the Finance desk which details the
>>>>>> cleaning procedure. This type of routine maintenance is something the
>>>>>> working group should handle (unless there's some sort of maintenance
>>>>>> contract, like is being discussed for a new printer).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Finance is still interested in the printer that the GEO was
>>>>>> offering, Brian's contact was Stephanie Seawell at the GEO.
>>>>>> <stephseawell at gmail.com>. The Ikon representative for a service
>>>>>> contract for the GEO printer/copier is Jeremy Bennett
>>>>>> <jerbennett at ikon.com>.  Brian can provide details about appropriate
>>>>>> page counts if this is the direction Finance decides to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As always, if working groups have support requests, please email the
>>>>>> Tech Listserv so we both have a record of the request and can respond
>>>>>> in a timely manner. imc-tech at lists.chambana.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for doing what you do, Finance! Please let us know what you
>>>>>> decide to do about the printer(s) and where you need Tech's
>>>>>> assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Chris R.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jan&  Durl Kruse<jandurl at comcast.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just asking, has anyone looked at the 2011 budget to see if monies are
>>>>>>> available for this.  It's only February and I see  under Office&
>>>>>>> Business
>>>>>>> Expenses  $1000 budgeted for media equipment, $1000 for computer
>>>>>>> equipment,
>>>>>>> and $1250 for photocopier.  Can these be modified to allow $300-$500
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> placed in line 2104 office equipment.  Maybe we need to just slightly
>>>>>>> modify
>>>>>>> and prioritize our office needs in the budget.  There's money in the
>>>>>>> budget,
>>>>>>> it's just how you want to spend it.  Of course, once its gone, its
>>>>>>> gone,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> that's not the case now.
>>>>>>> Durl
>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Isak Griffiths wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm....
>>>>>>> I don't think I've expressed either apathy or anger about finance. A
>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>> confusion sometimes, but seeing as not everything here is self-evident
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> self-explanatory I think that's fair.
>>>>>>> I also think it is fair to be frustrated when I can't print out a
>>>>>>> membership
>>>>>>> form when we are out and someone is ready to write a check for $50.
>>>>>>> (Yes,
>>>>>>> that has happened, and not everyone will submit a check with a
>>>>>>> makeshift
>>>>>>> membership form.)
>>>>>>> An appeal to the membership for a printer? Sounds like a good idea.
>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> suggest it come from a long-standing volunteer and not an americorps
>>>>>>> members
>>>>>>> whose name no one knows. But if that's going to happen, I'd suggest a
>>>>>>> VERY
>>>>>>> short email (to encourage reading) that includes two or three key
>>>>>>> items
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> are strongly needed.
>>>>>>> Just my two cents.
>>>>>>> Isak
>>>>>>> ____________________________
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Mike Lehman<rebelmike at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Isak,
>>>>>>>> There's an easy answer to this. Global Funds are segregated from IMC
>>>>>>>> funds, so the fact that we have $2000 to send to a global Indymedia
>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>> unfortunately doesn't mean we have a penny for printers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And please don't take this personally, as your question and concern
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> common one. In fact, it was exactly the problem I was referring to
>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>> night. Finance functions because we spend a lot of time saying no to
>>>>>>>> perfectly reasonable requests, because there have been no funds
>>>>>>>> raised
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> fund a printer purchase.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And it's at the root of people displaying first apathy and in some
>>>>>>>> cases
>>>>>>>> hostility about what Finance does. It's easy for them to stay angry
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> don't want to learn more about why Finance does what it does. They
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>> their problem fixed and because there is money around, they see
>>>>>>>> Finance
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> the heavy, since we have to explain our refusal to meet their
>>>>>>>> perfectly
>>>>>>>> reasonable request.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Repeat as necessary over 5 to 6 years. Do little fundraising for the
>>>>>>>> IMC
>>>>>>>> as a whole. Presume they've done their part. Move on to complaining
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> how Finance is obstructing their big plans because they won't
>>>>>>>> cooperate
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> their perfectly reasonable request -- reasonable at least until the
>>>>>>>> context
>>>>>>>> within which a reasonable request is made.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If Finance hadn't said no to so many people over the last 5 years,
>>>>>>>> everyone would be happy now? Not likely, as we would have closed the
>>>>>>>> doors
>>>>>>>> by now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But we still need a printer. Has anyone tried an appeal on the IMC
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>> for a working printer? Even if we come up with funds for a new one
>>>>>>>> after the
>>>>>>>> budget is resolved, it would be good to have a back-up anyway. Maybe
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> could tide us over though?
>>>>>>>> Mike Lehman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/14/2011 11:08 AM, Isak Griffiths wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we have $2000 to send to San Francisco, what will it take to get
>>>>>>>> $200
>>>>>>>> for a printer that works here? Isak
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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