[UCIMC-Tech] [Imc-bookkeeper] i have to ask

Chris Ritzo chris.ritzo at gmail.com
Wed Feb 16 15:12:37 CST 2011 

Brian can answer your question definitively Mike, but I think that the
printer on the south ramp is the old one that used to be downstairs in
the hallway outside the family room.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Danielle Chynoweth <chyn at ojctech.com> wrote:
> Also, OJC is considering donating a working laser printer to the IMC at
> their Friday staff meeting.  It has been super reliable and can be
> networked. - D
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> I may be wrong, but IIRC isn't the printer sitting on the south ramp the
>> one from GEO?
>> At least I thought we'd already received it and that one looks like the
>> one that was at GEO.
>>
>> The issue that was hanging was whether or not that printer could be
>> networked or not?
>>
>> So if it is the GEO printer and we can network it, then we're good. If
>> not, then we're back to square one.
>> Mike
>>
>> On 2/16/2011 1:44 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
>>>
>>> I've asked that Brian inquire into the GEO printer and the contract
>>> with IKON, assuming the printer is still available.
>>>
>>> Brian, could you inform the Bookkeeper list with an update when you
>>> hear back from GEO?
>>>
>>> Thanks. -Chris
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Danielle Chynoweth<chyn at ojctech.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> thanks chris
>>>>
>>>> a few things :
>>>>
>>>> after we  got our heads around financials from last year, we approved a
>>>> contract for the GEO printer/copier at finance.  our only questions
>>>> were:
>>>> can we network it?  does it print and not just copy?
>>>>
>>>> i thought we already had the printer/copier at the IMC - is this not
>>>> true?
>>>>
>>>> who can a) get the GEO printer/copier b) set up the contract and have
>>>> them
>>>> invoice the IMC and c) network the bugger so we can use it from multiple
>>>> locations?
>>>>
>>>> what is missing now is not money or decisions but someone to implement a
>>>> decision.
>>>>
>>>> also, is anyone looking at cost of servicing the brother?  i don't think
>>>> we
>>>> need to buy a new printer (although having some donated backups is
>>>> great),
>>>> we need to fix the one that we have unless it is more expensive than
>>>> buying
>>>> new.
>>>>
>>>> OJC has a totally functional laser jet i am close to getting donated.
>>>>
>>>> - danielle
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Chris Ritzo<chris.ritzo at gmail.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On behalf of Tech, I just wanted to enter this conversation with a
>>>>> voice of support for Finance. I can't make it to the meeting on
>>>>> Thursday at 4:30, but wanted to voice support from tech. Brian and I
>>>>> will continue to support the installation and configuration of current
>>>>> or future printers.
>>>>>
>>>>> One option that might help temporarily is to clean the print heads.
>>>>> This may stop jamming temporarily. The manual for the Brother printer
>>>>> is in the right-hand drawer of the Finance desk which details the
>>>>> cleaning procedure. This type of routine maintenance is something the
>>>>> working group should handle (unless there's some sort of maintenance
>>>>> contract, like is being discussed for a new printer).
>>>>>
>>>>> If Finance is still interested in the printer that the GEO was
>>>>> offering, Brian's contact was Stephanie Seawell at the GEO.
>>>>> <stephseawell at gmail.com>. The Ikon representative for a service
>>>>> contract for the GEO printer/copier is Jeremy Bennett
>>>>> <jerbennett at ikon.com>.  Brian can provide details about appropriate
>>>>> page counts if this is the direction Finance decides to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> As always, if working groups have support requests, please email the
>>>>> Tech Listserv so we both have a record of the request and can respond
>>>>> in a timely manner. imc-tech at lists.chambana.net
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for doing what you do, Finance! Please let us know what you
>>>>> decide to do about the printer(s) and where you need Tech's
>>>>> assistance.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Chris R.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jan&  Durl Kruse<jandurl at comcast.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just asking, has anyone looked at the 2011 budget to see if monies are
>>>>>> available for this.  It's only February and I see  under Office&
>>>>>> Business
>>>>>> Expenses  $1000 budgeted for media equipment, $1000 for computer
>>>>>> equipment,
>>>>>> and $1250 for photocopier.  Can these be modified to allow $300-$500
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> placed in line 2104 office equipment.  Maybe we need to just slightly
>>>>>> modify
>>>>>> and prioritize our office needs in the budget.  There's money in the
>>>>>> budget,
>>>>>> it's just how you want to spend it.  Of course, once its gone, its
>>>>>> gone,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> that's not the case now.
>>>>>> Durl
>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Isak Griffiths wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm....
>>>>>> I don't think I've expressed either apathy or anger about finance. A
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> confusion sometimes, but seeing as not everything here is self-evident
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> self-explanatory I think that's fair.
>>>>>> I also think it is fair to be frustrated when I can't print out a
>>>>>> membership
>>>>>> form when we are out and someone is ready to write a check for $50.
>>>>>> (Yes,
>>>>>> that has happened, and not everyone will submit a check with a
>>>>>> makeshift
>>>>>> membership form.)
>>>>>> An appeal to the membership for a printer? Sounds like a good idea.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> suggest it come from a long-standing volunteer and not an americorps
>>>>>> members
>>>>>> whose name no one knows. But if that's going to happen, I'd suggest a
>>>>>> VERY
>>>>>> short email (to encourage reading) that includes two or three key
>>>>>> items
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> are strongly needed.
>>>>>> Just my two cents.
>>>>>> Isak
>>>>>> ____________________________
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Mike Lehman<rebelmike at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Isak,
>>>>>>> There's an easy answer to this. Global Funds are segregated from IMC
>>>>>>> funds, so the fact that we have $2000 to send to a global Indymedia
>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>> unfortunately doesn't mean we have a penny for printers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And please don't take this personally, as your question and concern
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> common one. In fact, it was exactly the problem I was referring to
>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>> night. Finance functions because we spend a lot of time saying no to
>>>>>>> perfectly reasonable requests, because there have been no funds
>>>>>>> raised
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> fund a printer purchase.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it's at the root of people displaying first apathy and in some
>>>>>>> cases
>>>>>>> hostility about what Finance does. It's easy for them to stay angry
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> don't want to learn more about why Finance does what it does. They
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>> their problem fixed and because there is money around, they see
>>>>>>> Finance
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> the heavy, since we have to explain our refusal to meet their
>>>>>>> perfectly
>>>>>>> reasonable request.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Repeat as necessary over 5 to 6 years. Do little fundraising for the
>>>>>>> IMC
>>>>>>> as a whole. Presume they've done their part. Move on to complaining
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> how Finance is obstructing their big plans because they won't
>>>>>>> cooperate
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> their perfectly reasonable request -- reasonable at least until the
>>>>>>> context
>>>>>>> within which a reasonable request is made.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If Finance hadn't said no to so many people over the last 5 years,
>>>>>>> everyone would be happy now? Not likely, as we would have closed the
>>>>>>> doors
>>>>>>> by now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But we still need a printer. Has anyone tried an appeal on the IMC
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>> for a working printer? Even if we come up with funds for a new one
>>>>>>> after the
>>>>>>> budget is resolved, it would be good to have a back-up anyway. Maybe
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> could tide us over though?
>>>>>>> Mike Lehman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/14/2011 11:08 AM, Isak Griffiths wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we have $2000 to send to San Francisco, what will it take to get
>>>>>>> $200
>>>>>>> for a printer that works here? Isak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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