[UCIMC-Tech] [Imc-bookkeeper] i have to ask

Wed Feb 16 14:59:15 CST 2011

Also, OJC is considering donating a working laser printer to the IMC at
their Friday staff meeting.  It has been super reliable and can be
networked. - D

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net>wrote:

> I may be wrong, but IIRC isn't the printer sitting on the south ramp the
> one from GEO?
> At least I thought we'd already received it and that one looks like the one
> that was at GEO.
>
> The issue that was hanging was whether or not that printer could be
> networked or not?
>
> So if it is the GEO printer and we can network it, then we're good. If not,
> then we're back to square one.
> Mike
>
>
> On 2/16/2011 1:44 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
>
>> I've asked that Brian inquire into the GEO printer and the contract
>> with IKON, assuming the printer is still available.
>>
>> Brian, could you inform the Bookkeeper list with an update when you
>> hear back from GEO?
>>
>> Thanks. -Chris
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Danielle Chynoweth<chyn at ojctech.com>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> thanks chris
>>>
>>> a few things :
>>>
>>> after we  got our heads around financials from last year, we approved a
>>> contract for the GEO printer/copier at finance.  our only questions were:
>>> can we network it?  does it print and not just copy?
>>>
>>> i thought we already had the printer/copier at the IMC - is this not
>>> true?
>>>
>>> who can a) get the GEO printer/copier b) set up the contract and have
>>> them
>>> invoice the IMC and c) network the bugger so we can use it from multiple
>>> locations?
>>>
>>> what is missing now is not money or decisions but someone to implement a
>>> decision.
>>>
>>> also, is anyone looking at cost of servicing the brother?  i don't think
>>> we
>>> need to buy a new printer (although having some donated backups is
>>> great),
>>> we need to fix the one that we have unless it is more expensive than
>>> buying
>>> new.
>>>
>>> OJC has a totally functional laser jet i am close to getting donated.
>>>
>>> - danielle
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Chris Ritzo<chris.ritzo at gmail.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On behalf of Tech, I just wanted to enter this conversation with a
>>>> voice of support for Finance. I can't make it to the meeting on
>>>> Thursday at 4:30, but wanted to voice support from tech. Brian and I
>>>> will continue to support the installation and configuration of current
>>>> or future printers.
>>>>
>>>> One option that might help temporarily is to clean the print heads.
>>>> This may stop jamming temporarily. The manual for the Brother printer
>>>> is in the right-hand drawer of the Finance desk which details the
>>>> cleaning procedure. This type of routine maintenance is something the
>>>> working group should handle (unless there's some sort of maintenance
>>>> contract, like is being discussed for a new printer).
>>>>
>>>> If Finance is still interested in the printer that the GEO was
>>>> offering, Brian's contact was Stephanie Seawell at the GEO.
>>>> <stephseawell at gmail.com>. The Ikon representative for a service
>>>> contract for the GEO printer/copier is Jeremy Bennett
>>>> <jerbennett at ikon.com>.  Brian can provide details about appropriate
>>>> page counts if this is the direction Finance decides to go.
>>>>
>>>> As always, if working groups have support requests, please email the
>>>> Tech Listserv so we both have a record of the request and can respond
>>>> in a timely manner. imc-tech at lists.chambana.net
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for doing what you do, Finance! Please let us know what you
>>>> decide to do about the printer(s) and where you need Tech's
>>>> assistance.
>>>>
>>>> - Chris R.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jan&  Durl Kruse<jandurl at comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just asking, has anyone looked at the 2011 budget to see if monies are
>>>>> available for this.  It's only February and I see  under Office&
>>>>> Business
>>>>> Expenses  $1000 budgeted for media equipment, $1000 for computer
>>>>> equipment,
>>>>> and $1250 for photocopier.  Can these be modified to allow $300-$500 to
>>>>> be
>>>>> placed in line 2104 office equipment.  Maybe we need to just slightly
>>>>> modify
>>>>> and prioritize our office needs in the budget.  There's money in the
>>>>> budget,
>>>>> it's just how you want to spend it.  Of course, once its gone, its
>>>>> gone,
>>>>> but
>>>>> that's not the case now.
>>>>> Durl
>>>>> On Feb 14, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Isak Griffiths wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm....
>>>>> I don't think I've expressed either apathy or anger about finance. A
>>>>> little
>>>>> confusion sometimes, but seeing as not everything here is self-evident
>>>>> and
>>>>> self-explanatory I think that's fair.
>>>>> I also think it is fair to be frustrated when I can't print out a
>>>>> membership
>>>>> form when we are out and someone is ready to write a check for $50.
>>>>> (Yes,
>>>>> that has happened, and not everyone will submit a check with a
>>>>> makeshift
>>>>> membership form.)
>>>>> An appeal to the membership for a printer? Sounds like a good idea. But
>>>>> I
>>>>> suggest it come from a long-standing volunteer and not an americorps
>>>>> members
>>>>> whose name no one knows. But if that's going to happen, I'd suggest a
>>>>> VERY
>>>>> short email (to encourage reading) that includes two or three key items
>>>>> that
>>>>> are strongly needed.
>>>>> Just my two cents.
>>>>> Isak
>>>>> ____________________________
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Mike Lehman<rebelmike at earthlink.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Isak,
>>>>>> There's an easy answer to this. Global Funds are segregated from IMC
>>>>>> funds, so the fact that we have $2000 to send to a global Indymedia
>>>>>> project
>>>>>> unfortunately doesn't mean we have a penny for printers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And please don't take this personally, as your question and concern is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> common one. In fact, it was exactly the problem I was referring to
>>>>>> last
>>>>>> night. Finance functions because we spend a lot of time saying no to
>>>>>> perfectly reasonable requests, because there have been no funds raised
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> fund a printer purchase.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And it's at the root of people displaying first apathy and in some
>>>>>> cases
>>>>>> hostility about what Finance does. It's easy for them to stay angry if
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> don't want to learn more about why Finance does what it does. They
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> their problem fixed and because there is money around, they see
>>>>>> Finance
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> the heavy, since we have to explain our refusal to meet their
>>>>>> perfectly
>>>>>> reasonable request.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Repeat as necessary over 5 to 6 years. Do little fundraising for the
>>>>>> IMC
>>>>>> as a whole. Presume they've done their part. Move on to complaining
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> how Finance is obstructing their big plans because they won't
>>>>>> cooperate
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> their perfectly reasonable request -- reasonable at least until the
>>>>>> context
>>>>>> within which a reasonable request is made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Finance hadn't said no to so many people over the last 5 years,
>>>>>> everyone would be happy now? Not likely, as we would have closed the
>>>>>> doors
>>>>>> by now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But we still need a printer. Has anyone tried an appeal on the IMC
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> for a working printer? Even if we come up with funds for a new one
>>>>>> after the
>>>>>> budget is resolved, it would be good to have a back-up anyway. Maybe
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> could tide us over though?
>>>>>> Mike Lehman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/14/2011 11:08 AM, Isak Griffiths wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we have $2000 to send to San Francisco, what will it take to get
>>>>>> $200
>>>>>> for a printer that works here? Isak
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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