[UCIMC-Tech] concerns over social networking tools being outsourced

[Mike Lehman]

Brian,
Nah, wasn't suggesting tech manage the accounts. I'm just worried about 
some sort of central location where passwords, etc can be drop-boxed and 
managed. Not sure Tech has Tech tools for that or not. If not, then 
simply a secure paper file?

My wish is that we don't have an endless string of services that are 
constantly having to be re-minted because the password walks off with 
someone on a semi-regular basis.

There's also the issue of false attribution. Haven't had much trouble 
with that here, but that has caused problems elsewhere where accounts 
that SEEM to be someone's accounts are faked up and exploited. Having a 
central repository can't prevent something like that, but can make it a 
lot easier to sort out if it happens.

I realize that this is the IMC and know that because it's maybe a good 
idea, doesn't make it practical....
Mike

On 3/16/2011 4:27 PM, Brian Duggan wrote:
> I understand and that the concerns folks are bringing up must be
> addressed. I'm not sure that getting Tech involved in managing these
> accounts is necessary.
>
> These accounts are for general IMC outreach coordinators. The
> maintenance of these accounts is the responsibility of their creators
> and users. Tech can provide advice and pointers on how to securely
> manage and share access to these accounts, but we should not maintain or
> transfer login information.
>
> I'd be more than happy to discuss modern, secure password management
> tools and how outreach coordinators can use these tools to manage and
> share access to these accounts with Isak, Kristina, and whoever else is
> interested. Is this something folks would like to do?
>
> Thanks
> Brian
>
> On 3/16/11 8:45 AM, Mike Lehman wrote:
>> I'd like to echo concerns about how we interface with outside
>> organizations. Increasingly, we seem to do this for tasks where there
>> isn't internal interest in the effort. At a minimum, we need to know
>> what it is we want from such relationships.
>>
>> The compilation of different media facilities was instructive. In large
>> part, we don't have the basic info we need to access accounts set up
>> previously. At a minimum, any such accounts need to coordinate with
>> Tech. That we we have the passwords and other info needed to access such
>> accounts when people move on to other projects or they are misplaced or
>> forgotten.
>>
>> This is a serious problem, as having accounts that are clearly ours, but
>> which we now have no access to or control over, blocks access to our
>> future use of the account and preempts our ability to use the most
>> obvious, relevant account name.
>>
>> There must be a clear procedure that is observed before accounts are set
>> up in the name of UC IMC and its working groups so that our future work
>> is not hobbled because the original people setting up a account have
>> moved on without passing on the means to continue use of the account.
>>
>> If we don't have a clear idea what we want from such relationships, it's
>> a bad idea to set people loose with little or no guidance from UC IMC or
>> the relevant working group. It discourages this sort of cooperation in
>> the future, as such groups are looking for a relationship that offers
>> benefits to both parties. If we're not holding up our end of the
>> bargain, it's pointless to think that someone else can substitute their
>> own judgment about what's best for us for our own. That's not their
>> problem, it's OUR problem -- and it can't be outsourced.
>> Mike Lehman
>>
>> On 3/15/2011 1:42 PM, Kristina Williams wrote:
>>> I understand that much of the social networking tools we've have in
>>> place are largely scattered, out dated and rarely used, but I have
>>> concerns about giving the reigns over to the LINC class.
>>>
>>> I am unfamiliar with the LINC class plans for this semester, so Isak,
>>> it would be helpful I think (at least on this list, and also the web
>>> list) to summarize how LINC plans to use these accounts. At first
>>> glance, I am uncomfortable with members outside of the IMC community
>>> dictating how the rest of the world will view us digitally, because
>>> it's simply very difficult to conceptualize what the IMC is and does
>>> unless you have a history with the IMC as a volunteer. I have only
>>> seem bits and pieces of LINC classes' previous attempts to help the
>>> IMC, but past classes have largely failed (in my opinion) because of
>>> an unwillingness on their part to work WITH us, instead of FOR us.
>>>
>>> As someone who is invested in seeing the web presence of the IMC grow,
>>> I am interested in hearing how they plan to see their efforts to
>>> utilize our social networking this semester continue sustainably after
>>> they receive their academic credit and move on to other projects.
>>>
>>> -Kristina
>>>
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