[UCIMC-Tech] listserv request mails bouncing

[Barry Isralewitz]

Hi Josh,

	Thanks for the background.  Could you re-enable request addresses for bikecoop-announce list?     Our database will likely soon need a way to auto-add as part of our "start new member" procedure.

	Alternative if this becomes too much of a spam risk/problem:
	The easy alternative is to use command line Mailman scripts like add_members , but that brings access rights problems:  I think that if my account was  able to use Mailman scripts to do adds for one list , it would also have rights to change all the lists on chambana.net  I wouldn't want that (wouldn't  want scores of list managers wondering if every list problem they encounter is my fault).
	If the Mailman script privileges are as I think, then one answer is to write  a few  tiny, single-list Mailman command scripts s (e.g. add_members_to_bikecoop_announce, etc.) that themselves have privileges to run the actual scripts.  (e.g. "add_members --listname bikecoop-announce *$" or whatever the syntax is).  Would just need  two or three of these, to cover the list commands we'd automate.

			Cheers,
			
			Barry

On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Josh King wrote:

> Hi Barry,
> 
> In response to trying to harden our mail system and the lists in 
> particular against spam, I patched Mailman several months ago to remove 
> most of the request addresses. They're potentially a major source of 
> spam via bouncing false messages to list owners, and the vast majority 
> of mailman users utilize the web interface exclusively. Sorry about the 
> unexpected behavior; I considered raising the issue to the larger 
> community, but figured it would be an obscure issue to explain and so I 
> figured I would just do that and then deal with it in a timely fashion 
> if there were any objections or problems. If you would like, it should 
> be relatively easy for me to re-enable; it's just one of a number of 
> anti-spam measures I took at the time.
> 
> On Fri 15 Mar 2013 02:28:48 PM EDT, Barry Isralewitz wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 	I should be able to send commands to the Mailman lists via request-NAMEOFLIST at lists.chambana.net, yes?
>> A couple of years back, I had scripts that did this routinely on chamabana.net servers, and they worked fine.
>>   Today, tried the same address that used to work, and the address bounced:
>> 
>>  ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>> <bikecoop-announce-request at lists.chambana.net>
>>   (reason: 550 5.1.1 <bikecoop-announce-request at lists.chambana.net>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table)
>> 
>> 	Mail for another Bike Project mailing group also bounces...
>> 
>>> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain lists.chambana.net by mail.chambana.net. [209.66.96.68].
>>> 
>>> The error that the other server returned was:
>>> 550 5.1.1 <bikecoop-request at lists.chambana.net>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table
>> 
>> 	Am I sending to the correct address, and the problem is that the addresses have to specifically set up, or is there some new Mailman request address scheme?
>> 
>> 				Cheers,
>> 
>> 				Barry
>> 
>> 
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> 
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Theoretical and Computational Biophysics Group
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