[UCIMC-Tech] BTP Email lists

Chris Ritzo critzo at chambana.net
Thu Jul 24 14:29:40 EDT 2014


Jay,

Thanks for clarifying. I can definitely help with the decommisioning of
lists. Archives can remain online, which is the technical default. It
makes sense for my schedule to make some changes for you over the
weekend. If you need the chambana keystaff list decommissioned this
evening, I can do that tonight.

Just let me know.

Chris

On Thu 24 Jul 2014 01:26:37 PM EDT, Jay Schubert wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Thanks.  Google is only allowing me to add 100 users every 24 hours,
> but our big list is just 300 people so this isn't a big deal.  I
> experimented with invitations and found that direct add eliminates
> most of the confusion (invites ask people to visit the web archive
> then gives them hell if they're not a gmail user or especially if
> they're using an email address that's ever been associated with a
> google account).  So far direct add has worked just fine tough, by
> adding them in batches of 10, ten times in a row each day.
>
> The help I need is simply to decommission the lists on chambana.net
> <http://chambana.net>.  I don't know of any DNS change that would be
> required since today people use the chambana list by
> emailing BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net
> <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net> and after the change they
> will be sending mail to btp-announcements at googlegroups.com
> <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com>.   I just want to make
> sure that the old groups are no longer sending mail once we pull the
> trigger and go live.
>
> I think we're ready to do this with btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net
> <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net> today.
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Chris Ritzo <critzo at chambana.net
> <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>> wrote:
>
>     I know that if you're running google apps for business/non-profit,
>     then
>     you can bulk subscribe people. Is this what you guys are doing, Jay?
>     What specifically are you looking for help with? Migrating users &
>     archives? DNS redirect once the switch has been made?
>
>     -Chris
>
>
>     On Wed 23 Jul 2014 05:22:10 PM EDT, Stuart Levy wrote:
>     > Curious - Jay, do you have a good way to load names into a Google
>     > Groups list?
>     >
>     > It used to allow uploading a bunch of people and auto-subscribing
>     > them, and that may still be possible, but their anti-spam provisions
>     > make it very difficult.   You upload a very small number of
>     people at
>     > a time, and if you load too many - and they won't tell you how many
>     > that is - then you're locked out and can upload no more for another
>     > day or so.     I was able to load a few tens at a time, up to
>     most of
>     > a hundred per day, when last doing this a couple years ago.   So a
>     > 500-person list took more than a week to migrate, including a few
>     > lockouts.   I don't know how this compares with the BTP lists.
>     >
>     > Uploading addresses for people who then get Google
>     > invitations-to-subscribe is less restrictive.   But unless you
>     have a
>     > good way of telling people what to expect, most will just miss the
>     > subscription-invitation, or at least won't respond to it.
>     >
>     > Not sure whether the above is helpful, but if you haven't
>     already done
>     > that migration, then maybe it'll give you an easier time than I had.
>     > (I don't have access to do the things you'd actually want tech help
>     > with, like getting the existing lists to forward messages to
>     your new
>     > google groups.)
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On 7/23/14 3:34 PM, Jay Schubert wrote:
>     >> Techsters,
>     >>
>     >> Books to Prisoners has decide to migrate our email lists over to
>     >> Google Groups for spam control, reliability and user experience
>     >> issues.  We have three lists total on chambana.net
>     <http://chambana.net>
>     >> <http://chambana.net> and we will be ready to decommission them in
>     >> the coming days (not immediately).
>     >>
>     >> We will be starting with *Keystaff*, then *Jail Library*, then the
>     >> *General *list.
>     >>
>     >> Is anyone available to help with this effort?
>     >>
>     >> thanks,
>     >> Jay
>     >>
>     >>
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