[UCIMC-Tech] BTP Email lists

Chris Ritzo critzo at chambana.net
Sat Jul 26 10:13:49 EDT 2014 

Jay,
Just wanted to confirm that you're ready for me to archive these lists:
	btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net
	btp-jail-libraries at lists.chambana.net

And waiting to hear from you on archiving:
	bookstoprisoners at lists.chambana.net

Also, you have this list:
	btp-zine at lists.chambana.net

Just send me a confirmation and I'll get the first two archived and the
status of the other two.

-Chris



On 07/24/2014 03:54 PM, Jay Schubert wrote:
> thanks.  No rush.  This weekend is fine.  By then we can do keystaff and
> jail librarians.  I'll let you know if the migration of our general list
> is complete by then too.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Chris Ritzo <critzo at chambana.net
> <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Jay,
> 
>     Thanks for clarifying. I can definitely help with the decommisioning of
>     lists. Archives can remain online, which is the technical default. It
>     makes sense for my schedule to make some changes for you over the
>     weekend. If you need the chambana keystaff list decommissioned this
>     evening, I can do that tonight.
> 
>     Just let me know.
> 
>     Chris
> 
>     On Thu 24 Jul 2014 01:26:37 PM EDT, Jay Schubert wrote:
>     > Chris,
>     >
>     > Thanks.  Google is only allowing me to add 100 users every 24 hours,
>     > but our big list is just 300 people so this isn't a big deal.  I
>     > experimented with invitations and found that direct add eliminates
>     > most of the confusion (invites ask people to visit the web archive
>     > then gives them hell if they're not a gmail user or especially if
>     > they're using an email address that's ever been associated with a
>     > google account).  So far direct add has worked just fine tough, by
>     > adding them in batches of 10, ten times in a row each day.
>     >
>     > The help I need is simply to decommission the lists on
>     chambana.net <http://chambana.net>
>     > <http://chambana.net>.  I don't know of any DNS change that would be
>     > required since today people use the chambana list by
>     > emailing BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net>
>     > <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net>> and after the change they
>     > will be sending mail to btp-announcements at googlegroups.com
>     <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com>
>     > <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com
>     <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com>>.   I just want to make
>     > sure that the old groups are no longer sending mail once we pull the
>     > trigger and go live.
>     >
>     > I think we're ready to do this with
>     btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>
>     > <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>> today.
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     > Jay
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Chris Ritzo <critzo at chambana.net
>     <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>
>     > <mailto:critzo at chambana.net <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     I know that if you're running google apps for business/non-profit,
>     >     then
>     >     you can bulk subscribe people. Is this what you guys are
>     doing, Jay?
>     >     What specifically are you looking for help with? Migrating users &
>     >     archives? DNS redirect once the switch has been made?
>     >
>     >     -Chris
>     >
>     >
>     >     On Wed 23 Jul 2014 05:22:10 PM EDT, Stuart Levy wrote:
>     >     > Curious - Jay, do you have a good way to load names into a
>     Google
>     >     > Groups list?
>     >     >
>     >     > It used to allow uploading a bunch of people and
>     auto-subscribing
>     >     > them, and that may still be possible, but their anti-spam
>     provisions
>     >     > make it very difficult.   You upload a very small number of
>     >     people at
>     >     > a time, and if you load too many - and they won't tell you
>     how many
>     >     > that is - then you're locked out and can upload no more for
>     another
>     >     > day or so.     I was able to load a few tens at a time, up to
>     >     most of
>     >     > a hundred per day, when last doing this a couple years ago.
>       So a
>     >     > 500-person list took more than a week to migrate, including
>     a few
>     >     > lockouts.   I don't know how this compares with the BTP lists.
>     >     >
>     >     > Uploading addresses for people who then get Google
>     >     > invitations-to-subscribe is less restrictive.   But unless you
>     >     have a
>     >     > good way of telling people what to expect, most will just
>     miss the
>     >     > subscription-invitation, or at least won't respond to it.
>     >     >
>     >     > Not sure whether the above is helpful, but if you haven't
>     >     already done
>     >     > that migration, then maybe it'll give you an easier time
>     than I had.
>     >     > (I don't have access to do the things you'd actually want
>     tech help
>     >     > with, like getting the existing lists to forward messages to
>     >     your new
>     >     > google groups.)
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > On 7/23/14 3:34 PM, Jay Schubert wrote:
>     >     >> Techsters,
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Books to Prisoners has decide to migrate our email lists
>     over to
>     >     >> Google Groups for spam control, reliability and user experience
>     >     >> issues.  We have three lists total on chambana.net
>     <http://chambana.net>
>     >     <http://chambana.net>
>     >     >> <http://chambana.net> and we will be ready to decommission
>     them in
>     >     >> the coming days (not immediately).
>     >     >>
>     >     >> We will be starting with *Keystaff*, then *Jail Library*,
>     then the
>     >     >> *General *list.
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Is anyone available to help with this effort?
>     >     >>
>     >     >> thanks,
>     >     >> Jay
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
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