[IMC-US-Tech] Re: [IMC-US] IMC-US Proposal: DECISION-DEADLINE -- Friday Noon EST.

Tribal Scribal valeoftheoaks at hotmail.com
Mon Aug 9 20:25:35 CDT 2004 

Timeline sounds good from here. :)

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>From: Sascha Meinrath <sascha at ucimc.org>
>To: imc-us at chambana.net
>CC: imc-us-tech at chambana.net
>Subject: Re: [IMC-US] IMC-US Proposal: DECISION-DEADLINE -- Friday Noon 
>EST.
>Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 19:13:45 -0500 (CDT)
>
>On Sun, 8 Aug 2004, Tribal Scribal wrote:
>
> > Sooooo, can we deal w/this addition and conscence on the proposal? We 
>have
> > less than 3 weeks before RNC stuff begins.
>
>Absolutely -- it looks like there were no outstanding concerns or blocks
>and we've all agreed.  Let's move forward with implementing the website
>and getting our initial editorial policy up on the site.  Max, can you
>send out a fresh copy of the proposal we've just passed?
>
>As for next steps, are we ready to do a soft go-live of the website?  We
>probably want to move it over to its final home (server-wise) and then
>link from us.indymedia.org -- if we can do that this week, then we can
>test a bit and officially go live right before the RNC. How does that
>sound for a timeline?
>
>--Sascha
>
>
> > >From: deva <drdartist at riseup.net>
> > >To: imc-us at lists.cu.groogroo.com
> > >Subject: Re: [IMC-US] IMC-US Proposal: DECISION-DEADLINE -- Friday Noon
> > >EST.
> > >Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:53:02 -0700
> > >
> > >editorial policy regarding hiding posts to the newswire
> > >
> > >deva
> > >
> > >
> > >On Jul 28, 2004, at 6:49 PM, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> > >
> > >>On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Chris Anderson wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>agreed. how do we test for consensus on the internet? it seems like
> > >>>we've almost got it :)
> > >>
> > >>are there any more concerns on the table that haven't been addressed?
> > >>how about we set a deadline of friday Noon EST for bringing them up 
>and if
> > >>the table remains clear we move forward with implementation.
> > >>
> > >>--sascha
> > >>
> > >>>--- Tribal Scribal <valeoftheoaks at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>(applause, applause!)  :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>From: max <max at michiganimc.org>
> > >>>>>To: john duda <john at manifestor.org>
> > >>>>>CC: imc-us at lists.cu.groogroo.com
> > >>>>>Subject: Re: [IMC-US] a proposal
> > >>>>>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:27:57 -0700
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>ok, so the proposal has been amended to include an
> > >>>>open publishing newswire
> > >>>>>like www.indymedia.org (linked to from the front
> > >>>>page but not visible on
> > >>>>>the front page).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>I think we're getting somewhere...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>max
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>---
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Quoting john duda <john at manifestor.org>:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>if this is the editorial proposal we want to go
> > >>>>with(no open
> > >>>>>>publishing, more editorial voice than a purely
> > >>>>syndication site), i
> > >>>>>>would suggest that we *either* give up the url
> > >>>>>>"us.indymedia.org"(leaving us with indymedia.us)
> > >>>>and the other
> > >>>>>>associated rights of being an "official"
> > >>>>imc(syndication by global
> > >>>>>>newswire, link in the cities.inc sidebar file)
> > >>>>*or* submit the
> > >>>>>>proposed editorial policy to imc-process,
> > >>>>explaining our reasons for
> > >>>>>>not wanting to offer open publishing, in order
> > >>>>to give the network a
> > >>>>>>chance to object before we launch the site
> > >>>>officially.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>personally i'd prefer open-publishing....seems
> > >>>>simpler...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>john
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 04:14:09PM -0700, max
> > >>>>wrote:
> > >>>>>>>proposed by members of michiganIMC.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>I. "featurewire" policy:
> > >>>>>>>fully automated, syndicated wire of all
> > >>>>features from US IMCs
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>II. center column policy:
> > >>>>>>>-the center column is the place to feature:
> > >>>>>>>	1) articles promoted from the featurewire
> > >>>>>>>		-these articles will be either:
> > >>>>>>>		a) bumped to the center column with no
> > >>>>changes from the feature wire
> > >>>>>>>		b) bumped to the center column with spelling
> > >>>>and grammar corrections
> > >>>>>>if
> > >>>>>>>needed
> > >>>>>>>		c) bumped to the center column with added
> > >>>>links and content with the
> > >>>>>>>exclusive purpose of adding context for a
> > >>>>US-wide 		audience
> > >>>>>>>	2) articles written by an editorial team
> > >>>>specifically for US-IMC
> > >>>>>>>		a) these articles will be written
> > >>>>collaboratively over an email
> > >>>>>list,
> > >>>>>>in a
> > >>>>>>>very similar fashion to global
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>III.  additional criteria for center column:
> > >>>>>>>	1) center column features should be articles
> > >>>>produced by local IMCs
> > >>>>>>with
> > >>>>>>>content relevant to the US-IMC readers
> > >>>>>>>	2) center column features should be original
> > >>>>features compiled by the
> > >>>>>>>US-IMC editorial team
> > >>>>>>>	3) there will be an emphasis on featuring
> > >>>>articles produced by local
> > >>>>>>IMCs
> > >>>>>>>rather than by the US editorial group
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>IV. process:
> > >>>>>>>	1) there will be a US-IMC editorial group
> > >>>>that will communicate over
> > >>>>>>an
> > >>>>>>>email list.
> > >>>>>>>	2) this group will work out a more detailed
> > >>>>policy regarding the
> > >>>>>>promotion
> > >>>>>>>of features to the center column from the
> > >>>>featurewire as 	    needed.
> > >>>>>>>	3) if articles from the featurewire fall
> > >>>>within the criteria for the
> > >>>>>>center
> > >>>>>>>column, they can be promoted immediately by
> > >>>>any individual with
> > >>>>>>>editorial access.
> > >>>>>>>	4) original articles produced by the US
> > >>>>editorial group will follow a
> > >>>>>>>similar process to global (proposal --> 6hrs
> > >>>>without blocking -->
> > >>>>>>publish -
> > >>>>>>>this can be articulated in greater detail if
> > >>>>people want)
> > >>>>>>>	5) the email list and the internal message
> > >>>>boards in Mir will be used
> > >>>>>>for
> > >>>>>>>inter-group communication
> > >>>>>>>	6) the editorial group is open to anyone who
> > >>>>is already working on a
> > >>>>>>local
> > >>>>>>>IMC in the US
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>---
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Quoting Joshua Breitbart
> > >>>><breitbart at indymedia.org>:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>"live" is such a relative term anyway. Does
> > >>>>it mean when the
> > >>>>>>indymedia.us
> > >>>>>>>>url is
> > >>>>>>>>pointed to it? Or when we actually start
> > >>>>promoting it?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>The site won't start getting much traffic
> > >>>>until it has something
> > >>>>>>more
> > >>>>>>>>than an
> > >>>>>>>>untouched syndication feed. We need at least
> > >>>>to be able to provide
> > >>>>>>some
> > >>>>>>>>context
> > >>>>>>>>for the links, expand or reduce the
> > >>>>abstracts, and correct typos.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>John - I'd like an account. But is there any
> > >>>>editorial management at
> > >>>>>>all
> > >>>>>>>>as its
> > >>>>>>>>currently configured? Seems like the
> > >>>>features wire just rolls along.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>I think it would be really incongruous to
> > >>>>once in a while all of a
> > >>>>>>sudden
> > >>>>>>>>have
> > >>>>>>>>breaking news pop up on the site.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>My main concern is that the site be most
> > >>>>useful with the least
> > >>>>>>possible
> > >>>>>>>>effort.
> > >>>>>>>>That means a constantly updated center
> > >>>>column. For that, we should
> > >>>>>>allow
> > >>>>>>>>for
> > >>>>>>>>multiple ways to access the center column.
> > >>>>The easiest way to do
> > >>>>>that
> > >>>>>>is
> > >>>>>>>>simply
> > >>>>>>>>to be able to bump up features from the wire
> > >>>>and that will probably
> > >>>>>>be
> > >>>>>>>>the
> > >>>>>>>>primary source of content. But we'd be
> > >>>>making our lives more
> > >>>>>>difficult if
> > >>>>>>>>we
> > >>>>>>>>close off the option of being able to post
> > >>>>features directly.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>Josh
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>Quoting max <max at michiganimc.org>:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>=== message truncated ===
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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