[IMC-US-tech] RE: [IMC-US] Re: Acorn Active Media Worker Collective Offer: (Sascha Meinrath)

[max]

to Brian, d.o, and all,

we are talking about:
1. something like the little box that exists on all dadaIMC pages that 
says "this page made manifest by dadaIMC."
2. one article when the site goes live.

It's extremely frustrating for me to hear non-constructive criticisms 
against the only current idea that could move us forward.  There has 
been literally no discussion or creative suggestions for over three 
months, despite several people's repeated attempts to get this project 
moving again after a fairly productive summer.  There has been an 
ongoing outreach effort within the IMC network.  There has been a 
consistent attempt to find people willing to do the tech work necessary 
to get the site running.  No one has volunteered so far.  Working with 
the Acorn Media group is of course far from a perfect solution, and 
perhaps we need to do a little bit of negotiating to make everyone as 
happy as possible, but at this point it's the only option available to 
us to get the site running.

I know we shouldn't sacrifice our ethics to get a website up a little 
bit faster; I personally don't think that Acorn Media's terms are 
forcing us to do that.  If you do, though, could you please 1) clarify 
whether you are blocking this proposal (which was consensed on in the 
tech working group), or if you want more time to discuss, or what; and 
2) offer a compromise, an alternative, another idea, a tech genius 
friend, or anything.

I apologize in advance in my tone seems harsh. overall it just seems 
ridiculous that we haven't been able to get it together in one way or 
another to get the site live already.

in solidarity,

max

On Jan 5, 2004, at 9:59 AM, Tribal Scribal wrote:

> Pro Bono? We ALL work pro bono and without much in the way of 
> permanent acknowledgement. The strings attached to the offer make this 
> volunteer feel a bit uncomfortable. Would the Acorn collective 
> reconsider doing it in the spirit of solidarity w/o such incentives? I 
> hope so.
>
> d.o.
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>> From: "Brian Szymanski" <bks10 at cornell.edu>
>> To: imc-us at lists.cu.groogroo.com, imc-us-tech at lists.cu.groogroo.com
>> Subject: [IMC-US] Re: Acorn Active Media Worker Collective Offer: 
>> (Sascha Meinrath)
>> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 08:25:06 -0500 (EST)
>>
>> From: Sascha Meinrath <sascha at ucimc.org>
>> > The Acorn Active Media worker collective has offered to partner 
>> with the
>> > IMC-US Tech group to help launch the IMC-US website.  Acorn Active 
>> Media
>> > is willing to do this work Pro Bono in return for acknowledgement 
>> of its
>> > aid -- a feature story for the first two weeks after the site goes 
>> live,
>> > and a permanent small acknowledgement at the bottom of the left-hand
>> > column. The IMC-US Tech group actively supports this proposal and 
>> feels
>> > that this is a good way to proceed with the project.  Unless there 
>> are any
>> > major objections, we will start partnering immediately.
>>
>> Please, no.
>>
>> I realize I have no official voice in this group, but I feel quite
>> strongly that trading feature status for any sort of money or work is 
>> the
>> exact antithesis of what indymedia stands for. Furthermore, a 
>> permanent
>> link of sorts on the page that is any bigger than the "this software 
>> made
>> manifest by dadaimc/sf-active/etc" (which serves a useful purpose) is 
>> very
>> troublesome to me as well.
>>
>> I realize that this Acorn group is probably quite awesome, but making
>> exceptions is a slippery slope.
>>
>> There are other ways to get the site up, like, say reaching out to 
>> imc's
>> in the us and asking for tech help :-)
>>
>> Peace & solidarity,
>> Brian Szymanski
>> ski at indymedia.org
>> bks10 at cornell.edu
>>
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