[Imc-web] Mike, you seem to have got the 'roles' reversed.

[Hartlod]

I only included you in the reply I made, on a single instance, those are the
style of 'back chat' that these 'yahoo few' produce, my inclusion even was
probably an oversight. My inclusion of yourself was done as a courtesy as
you where mentioned.

What within my posts are troubling you?

What 'facts' has Pat N provided? 

He is still attempting to avoid any and all mention directly of WHAT is at
the basis of his 'issue'. This after numerous attempts to start up such
discussions, and running when the 'audience' is not 'appreciative' (which is
in near all cases).

Pat has formed the practice of producing threads that vilify me; I was being
informed of these as they appeared. I am only now able to pay Pat N.
sufficient attention to make HIM realise that practice WILL cease.

What 'flame-baiting' is there on my part? I have been the only one providing
'detail', and demand suitable detail in return from Pat N.

What is the topic of the thread? When will Pat N. actually discuss the topic
he seems now desperate to avoid? I am not 'calling Pat N. out' by demanding
he give a reason with validation for the topic of the threads he starts.

It is that the real 'roles' seem to have been reversed. It is that it is Pat
N. you should be censuring, not I, based on the reality of what is being
said.

Do not assume what I 'know and do not know' please Mike, it is NOT difficult
to contact a meteorological service and various related offices and within
suitable official capacities gain a determination of circumstance.

Your's with all respect,
Peter K. Anderson a.k.a. Hartlod(tm) 
>From the PC of Peter K Anderson
E-Mail: Hartlod at bigpond.com

In Response to:-
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lehman [mailto:rebelmike at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:45 AM
To: Hartlod
Cc: imc-web at ucimc.org
Subject: Re: Give it up Pat N.

Mr. Anderson,
There is absolutely no need to cc me copies of your diatribes. I'm fully 
aware of the nature of your replies to Pat.

Despite my warning to stick to arguing the facts in your replies to him, 
you seem to be unable to comport your dialogue in a respectful manner. 
Please do not post anything else that invoke's Pat's name (i.e. don't 
even mention it), blames him for his firing (of which you can't possibly 
have first-hand knowledge), or otherwise "calls him out."

While your two posts over last night continue to violate our website use 
policy, I have refrained from hiding them for the time being. Please 
read our website use policy, if you haven't already:
http://www.ucimc.org/mod/info/display/policy/index.php

In particular, I call your attention to this part of the policy:

"Off-Topic Posts - this is perhaps the most difficult category of
inappropriate posts to judge, since the IMC Newswire intends to be a 
forum that is open to a broad range of topics and ideas. Nonetheless 
there are posts that are baldly and clearly inappropriate, whose purpose 
seems clearly to be other than informing, educating or adding to a 
public discourse. In the worst cases their appearance on the IMC 
Newswire may indeed discourage other visitors from using the site. 
Isolated posts are typically not problematic, and so the problem of 
off-topic posts is usually related to flooding or spamming. Therefore 
the frequency of off-topic posts of a particular type should be 
considered when deciding whether to hide them."

Given the repetitive nature of your flamebaiting and Pat's fortitude in 
failing to respond to it, I believe that the pattern of your posts 
allows me to interpret them as fitting the pattern of being off-topic, 
i.e. "whose purpose seems clearly to be other than informing, educating 
or adding to a public discourse." Unless you stick to dealing with the 
subject matter at hand and refrain from engaging in the rather 
aggressive manner with Pat personally you have demonstrated so far, any 
future posts containing material of this nature will be hidden.

Please also note that the nature of your engagements with Pat in other 
forums are irrelevant here, except in assessing how the postings here 
fit an established pattern of abuse that has migrated here from 
elsewhere. Take your complaints about Yahoo, etc there.
Mike Lehman