[Imc-web] RE: A Two-Week Time-Out

[Hartlod]

Mike there is no 'baiting' of Pat N in either if these posts, and in no way
it is so seen.
I have tolerated an insufferable level of abuse from a few individuals
hiding behind fake identity, yet I hear and see nothing from yourself or any
other 'moderator' on MY behalf.

There seems an inconsistent and apparently biased play of 'interpretations'
here that needs to be explained please.

You WILL note in 
http://www.ucimc.org/newswire/display_any/113272
that I give PROVABLE statistics IN MY OWN DEFENSE.

REFER to the post in that discussion (and which the two posts you 'single
out' reply to):-

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Oh, the Irony!  
by historian
(No verified email address)  Current rating: 0
22 Mar 2006  
hartlod(tm),
Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously be your continual
rehashing of your difference of opinion with Pat?

Pat at least has some credentials to back up his interpretation and opinion.
You have offered absolutely NOTHING to indicate any similar expertise on
your part. Instead, you have simply been repeating your unqualified opinion
about his interpretation. I don't take this very seriously and I doubt
anyone else does either.

As a historian, I'm perfectly willing to deal with facts, but I'm also
cognizant of the social construction of facts. Having an expertise does not
make one an expert or guarantee that everything that comes out of an
expert's mouth will be the objective truth.

Pat at least has his expertise to qualify his opinions as being worthy of
attention. You have -- NOTHING! You're relying solely on the seemingly
endless repetition of your opinion as being of significance. It's not. It's
ONLY your opinion and nothing more.

To take just one example of the sorry state of your debate skills, let's
look at your credulous support of nuclear power. If CO2 is really not an
issue here, then why don't you simply call for more coal-fired powerplants?
Believe me, the problem isn't getting the electricty into the wires -- what
the hell does that part of your increasingly incomprehensible argumentation
have to do with global weather anyway?

You've simply drunk neo-conservative kool-aid and are too ignorant to admit
that your opinion is nothing except an apology for the powers that be. It
sure isn't something to take seriously. You've made it plain that you're
nothing but a troll -- and a cyberstalker, based on a quick Googling of your
internet presence on this subject.  
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Peter K. Anderson a.k.a. Hartlod(tm) 
>From the PC of Peter K Anderson
E-Mail: Hartlod at bigpond.com

In Response to:-

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lehman [mailto:rebelmike at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:42 AM
To: Hartlod; imc-web at ucimc.org
Subject: A Two-Week Time-Out

Mr. Anderson,
Given your repeated violation of our website use policy, I am placing 
you on a two-week suspension. You had three chances to adjust your 
posting practices to address the concerns I previously raised with you 
about your flamebaiting of Pat N. You managed to continue your 
violations in each case. I have no faith that you will in the future 
avoid repeating your violations, given this situation.

The specific posts that represented the third violation are these:
http://www.ucimc.org/newswire/display_any/113271
http://www.ucimc.org/newswire/display_any/113272

In it, you once again attack Pat, justifying your actions here by what 
you allege to be his actions elsewhere. As I noted to you before, 
whatever either of you two brought here, I am only able to consider what 
has occurred here. In this case, it is clearly you who has engaged in 
repeated violations of our website use policy.

I expect that you will refrain from further postings here, pending the 
results of UC IMC's Steering group decision on this case. The outcome of 
the Steering group's decision is uncertain. They may grant another 
chance, in which case the two-week suspension will end then, although 
usually with the condition that violations will not recur. They may also 
choose to continue with a temporary ban for a certain period, with 
restoration of your posting privileges to occur afterwards, or they 
could decide to make it a permanent ban. Further posting in the interim 
will tend to add to the evidence against you, so make your decision 
accordingly.
Mike Lehman
UC IMC Web Editor